Supreme Novices Hurdle 2020

[ComplyOrDie]

yep, 33;s vs 44's took a while to decide. might do b365 as well before race.
i was going to do 365 and have finger on wh during race, but that tactic has been hit and miss,

to be fair i'm only going one point on most of these antepost bets. I'll do 20x that in a couple of hours this afternoon. but i still try and err on the side of caution when i can.

Fair enough Q.

I've backed him to beat King Roland over this trip (although I have King Roland (any race) for the festival), and will probably roll over the money on Son Of Camas, should he win impressively, for the Supreme, as I really like King Roland and I think it'll take a good one to beat him, even over a trip too short.

[Scooby91]

Son of camas looked pretty good. You'd like to think he could improve on that also.

[Quevega]

Yep looked green enough, and people seem to think it might have been a decent maiden.
The right horses seemed to be jumping the last.
I'd be a little worried about a stiff track myself, but we'll not know until they go up in class.
Pleased with the ride from Nico as I took the 11/2 when it drifted and thought he might have one of his sleepy rides.

[FaugheenTheMachine]

Son of Camas looked very decent there; in what certainly on paper looked a strong race

[Scooby91]

All the good ones are still there in the royal bond.

Embittered at 25/1 EW seems absoute madness to me. But just shows the strength and depth of the race.

[Kevloaf]

Might be last time I do this, as I prefer to go with B365, so I can duck out at a very small loss.
But I've backed
Son of Camas at 44-1 WH for this race.

Runs in the maiden tomorrow, and is a race that often throws up cheltenham types. And looks a decent maiden again on paper.

This horse was mentioned by me a few weeks ago somewhere on these threads as it won it's bumper really well at this track (the form is still untested) and they also sent it over for the land rover bumper in April and it went off 2-1 favourite (so someone thinks it's decent, but it finished tailed off).

I'm hoping they think it's going well enough again, after it's bumper win, and nicky henderson has tried some decent types in this race in the past. Some have been future stayers but he also ran Buvuer Da'ir for the same owners.

The breeding strongly suggests speed (creachadoir won the Lockinge and was rated 118 on flat), and whilst I prefer NH breds for the supreme generally, I don't mind the flat breds that have never ran on the flat.

It's a bit of a punt to be fair and may well be on the scrapheap this time tomorrow.

Must have missed this somehow, very nice tip and punt. Good angle, well done Q.

I don't think King Roland lost a lot in defeat either if he is (as anticipated) better upped in trip.

I took the opening 7/2 Bet365 Son of Camas for tomorrows race Q. Its a strong maiden on paper.

[Kevloaf]

All the good ones are still there in the royal bond.

Embittered at 25/1 EW seems absoute madness to me. But just shows the strength and depth of the race.

Could be some wild over reactions for beaten horses.

Elliott said again recently on the Betfair Podcast that Envoi Allen is more of a staying type.... if he wins tomorrow whatever he beats might be over looked for here?

Hopefully Abacadabras runs well, you tempted to get him back onside before he runs?

[Pendil]

Looking forward to seeing Sempo uphold the formline from this years Bumper. Just under 8l behind Envoi Allen in 6th and 9l+ ahead of the rest of the field fairyhouse 1.35

[charlie]

Could be some wild over reactions for beaten horses.

Elliott said again recently on the Betfair Podcast that Envoi Allen is more of a staying type.... if he wins tomorrow whatever he beats might be over looked for here?

Hopefully Abacadabras runs well, you tempted to get him back onside before he runs?

Yeh Abacadabras is onside. Really hopes he serves it up to EA

[ComplyOrDie]

Yeh Abacadabras is onside. Really hopes he serves it up to EA

I don't believe he will be able to personally, but we will see.

[charlie]

I don't believe he will be able to personally, but we will see.

It will be interesting to see what Abacadabras has in the tank. Hasn’t been emptied yet.

[Kevloaf]

I don't know whether to take advantage of the fact Slybet are best price on Son of Camas and I have a heap of free bets available at 33/1.

That seems a fair price considering it was available before the race in some places.

Then again, I don't use free bets each way, so I might have 1 pt e/w




Somebody tell me I'm falling into a trap before I pull the trigger.
He'd had a race earlier in the month so you'd assume he was well on the way to being ready.... would race fitness for some of the ones in behind have made a difference? Probably...

[ComplyOrDie]

Somebody tell me I'm falling into a trap before I pull the trigger.
He'd had a race earlier in the month so you'd assume he was well on the way to being ready.... would race fitness for some of the ones in behind have made a difference? Probably...

He was in my book, and I had completely forgot about him until Q brought him up, but I have my worries after watching him.

For all that he won, he done it nice enough, he beat a couple of horses that (IMO I might add) need further, and he's only just beat them for pace, of course, there is plenty of improvement expected I'd imagine but the bookmakers clearly think something along them lines, as they are offering a more than fair price (given connections reputations etc....). I'd much prefer the 33's about Hang In There than the 33's of Son Of Camas personally.

I'm actually thinking of adding Hang In There very soon.

[taylorch1990]

Hoping for an impressive debut over hurdles from Sempo today. Imo was travelling better than anything turning in in the bumper then got outstayed up the hill. The bumper looks above average this year and I'm happy to be on at 50s.

[Quevega]

Hoping for an impressive debut over hurdles from Sempo today. Imo was travelling better than anything turning in in the bumper then got outstayed up the hill. The bumper looks above average this year and I'm happy to be on at 50s.

Ended up a small form boost for Midnight run that race.
Like Midnight run and have backed again for tomorrow at 15/2 ro add to the 10-1 ew antepost earlier in week/
Think it needs a trip in time, but looked speedy enough first time up.
can't decide what to do antepost for the festival for him though.
I'll see tomorrow