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  • Originally posted by SeanRock View Post
    Point being? Plenty of quick horses have come from successful PTP backgrounds!
    Point being - that when Nicky has a flying machine for the Supreme he will find any excuse to run him in the Ballymore

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    • Originally posted by punterorplonker View Post
      fffffffffffffffffffffs

      Nicky Henderson on Chantry House: “He could want another half a mile.”

      14s from 20s with today’s sponsor
      @BetfairRacing
      for the Ballymore #
      14/1 with Ladbrokes too, (15/1 if you get boosts)

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      • Originally posted by delsie777 View Post
        Point being - that when Nicky has a flying machine for the Supreme he will find any excuse to run him in the Ballymore
        JP calls the shots.

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        • Originally posted by delsie777 View Post
          Point being - that when Nicky has a flying machine for the Supreme he will find any excuse to run him in the Ballymore
          Spot on delsie... reading between the lines it looks like Nicky thinks Shish will be hard to beat in the Supreme.

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          • Originally posted by punterorplonker View Post
            fffffffffffffffffffffs

            Nicky Henderson on Chantry House: “He could want another half a mile.”

            14s from 20s with today’s sponsor
            @BetfairRacing
            for the Ballymore #
            It was shorter odds than the win today he’d come out & say that....he just wants chances in both races but I wonder if Barry & JP will be so easily influenced.....I sure hope not!!

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            • Originally posted by Morley Street View Post
              Spot on delsie... reading between the lines it looks like Nicky thinks Shish will be hard to beat in the Supreme.
              Listening to what Nicky Henderson says is proven to be dangerous.

              Reading between the lines of what he has actually said would be borderline madness



              I thought that was a good performance. I don't think I'd fancy him to beat Envoi Allen, but horses do have to fill the places

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              • Am here. That whole run screamed Ballymore. Was a little outpaced 3 out when they upped the pace. But had so much more in the tank to win impressively. An aggressively run Supreme or the Ballymore; I think it has to be the latter.

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                • Youll probably have a much better idea after Sporting John runs tomorrow, if he wins over 2 miles tomorrow youd have to think Sporting john goes here and Chantry house goes Ballymore based on entries and comments now

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                  • Still 10/1 nrnb for the supreme. Cracking bet for me

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                    • Have you backed for Supreme or bally?

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                      • Originally posted by TCH29 View Post
                        Am here. That whole run screamed Ballymore. Was a little outpaced 3 out when they upped the pace. But had so much more in the tank to win impressively. An aggressively run Supreme or the Ballymore; I think it has to be the latter.
                        You backed for supreme or bally?

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                        • Originally posted by TCH29 View Post
                          Am here. That whole run screamed Ballymore. Was a little outpaced 3 out when they upped the pace. But had so much more in the tank to win impressively. An aggressively run Supreme or the Ballymore; I think it has to be the latter.
                          Ballymore is never run aggressively. The slower they go the more he’ll gas. Don’t see an argument to say the Ballymore is more suited personally. JP will decide and I’m very confident he runs here. Forget Nicky’s comments, the guys a bumbling idiot.

                          He didn’t get outpaced at all, he made a mess of the 3rd last and was ridden away from it, back on the bridle straight away
                          Last edited by Kautothegreat8; 8 February 2020, 12:49 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                            Related double on them each way perhaps?

                            272/1 for Chantry House (Supreme) / Sporting John (Ballymore) (PP/BFSB)
                            NRNB price of 164/1 (sky)

                            713/1 for Chantry House (Ballymore) / Sporting John (Supreme) (PP/BFSB)
                            NRNB 186/1 (sky)


                            Originally posted by billymag View Post
                            Youll probably have a much better idea after Sporting John runs tomorrow, if he wins over 2 miles tomorrow youd have to think Sporting john goes here and Chantry house goes Ballymore based on entries and comments now
                            Certianly got more of an interest in that race tomorrow that I had before

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                            • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                              Listening to what Nicky Henderson says is proven to be dangerous.

                              Reading between the lines of what he has actually said would be borderline madness



                              I thought that was a good performance. I don't think I'd fancy him to beat Envoi Allen, but horses do have to fill the places
                              Think the Madness is starting to creep in Kev

                              Agree that I wouldn’t personally fancy him to beat Envoi but Hendo will know whether he fancies him to beat Shish.

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                              • Originally posted by Morley Street View Post
                                Think the Madness is starting to creep in Kev

                                Agree that I wouldn’t personally fancy him to beat Envoi but Hendo will know whether he fancies him to beat Shish.
                                Even if he did think Shiskin would beat Chantry House... why would he go to JP and Berry and tell them that?

                                He'd have absolutely nothing to gain from it?


                                I don't think Shishkin has very much to do with where Chantry House goes at all, different jockeys, different owners...

                                Reading too much into nothing IMO

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