Ryanair 2020

[Istabraq]

I’ve said it plenty of time but this is the hardest non novice race to consider so far out, pretty much the entire field will be targeting the Champion Chase or Gold Cup (or some serious handicap cheating) and will only end up here if they don’t have pace/stamina for either of those trips...

[archie]

With a view to the Ryanair, I don't think you can say it was particularly impressive. It's a nice piece of form depending on how highly you rate Melon as a Cheltenham horse, but it's not a piece of form that would put him down as the one to beat, in isolation.

That's about right. The line is the only place that matters but Melon was in front everywhere but the line. I don't think that either horse was reluctant to win. Melon has previously caught a tartar each year at the Festival rather than dogged it and, just like Min, his turn may come.

In terms of this race, you'd have to say that they both have the same sort of chance but neither may be good enough to win. As a place bet, Melon would be more attractive.

[ComplyOrDie]

In terms of this race, you'd have to say that they both have the same sort of chance but neither may be good enough to win. As a place bet, Melon would be more attractive.

That's been my route with Melon every festival Also backed as well, but on the day I get involved in the place side of it on it's own.

Wasn't much of a price in the Supreme, mind.

[Hardy Eustace]

That is horrible.

His Any Race price is surely bigger than that?!

5s with hills - sheer pikeyness.

[Joleg]

I can see allaho going gold cup aswell as lostintranslation think a plud tard should try the champion this year probably be a smaller field head of the market injury prone perfect opportunity! Min was lucky this years winning that race Townsend did a great steering job! My pick at the moment is samcro I just don’t see me winning a gold cup owners have delta work for gold cup the way he won the marsh was impressive only worry is do they go for the gold cup holding fire on this race! Defi is overpriced @20 but same dilemma with CC campaign

That's one loooong sentence

[Kevloaf]

That's one loooong sentence

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I reckon it was four sentences?

[OverTheLast]

To be fair it would absolute madness imo if they sent Allaho for a Gold Cup tilt.

[SharpHat]

Even though it’s Tizzard can you really see them going for the Ryanair after finishing 3rd beaten 1 and a half lengths in a gold cup?

Imo absolutely no chance of that happening.

He ran a cracking race and was there with a chance, definitely be back next year and if they are sensible and miss the king George with him can see him being bang there again next year.

He travelled through the race like a dream, jumping 2 out i really thought he was going to win it. But he didnt get up the hill... and i really cant see any reason why next year would be any different. If they go for the ryanair i think he'd win it, 2 and a half round there would see him at his best IMO.

Having said that 7-1 at this stage for a race he probably wont run in is taking the piss.

[Yorkhill12]

To be fair it would absolute madness imo if they sent Allaho for a Gold Cup tilt.

K
Totally agree here, an aggressive front running ride on a course that seems to favour those up with the pace would make him the one to beat in the Ryanair imo definitely hasn't looked like he needed an extra 2.5 furlongs in his races so far to me!

[Arkle]

Allaho just turned 6 last month there’s room for improvement! I think he would win the Ryanair but I would be surprised if he didn’t go for the gold cup I think the owners would like a runner in it!

[Istabraq]

K
Totally agree here, an aggressive front running ride on a course that seems to favour those up with the pace would make him the one to beat in the Ryanair imo definitely hasn't looked like he needed an extra 2.5 furlongs in his races so far to me!

The Ryanair may well prove to be the best target for Allaho but having contested the big 3m novices hurdles last Spring (2019) tells me they always had the horse down as a Gold Cup horse.
Allowing for improvement with age/experience he could still achieve this and has little to find with Minella Indo.
I doubt Mullins makes many mistakes when judging a horses optimum trip....

[Kevloaf]

The Ryanair may well prove to be the best target for Allaho but having contested the big 3m novices hurdles last Spring (2019) tells me they always had the horse down as a Gold Cup horse.
Allowing for improvement with age/experience he could still achieve this and has little to find with Minella Indo.
I doubt Mullins makes many mistakes when judging a horses optimum trip....

I suppose they could always take the Imperial Commander / Don Cossack approach, given his age?

I've surprised myself as I know I've backed him for the Ryanair already in a double which is odd considering it's perfectly feasible he doesn't run.

[Istabraq]

I suppose they could always take the Imperial Commander / Don Cossack approach, given his age?.

Neither of those were trained by Mullins and my point was related to Mullins’ judgement more than anything.
He got much closer to Minella Indo this Spring than he did last Spring so you could argue his stamina is improving.
I have Allaho at 20/1, not a bet I’m massively keen on but I had a big pot of free bets after a series of betway offers on first/last race specials and runner up offers, I won’t be pressing the bet as I think there are 3 or 4 others with better crudentials but it wouldn’t shock me if Allaho improved sufficiently to win a Gold Cup.

But no-one knows the horse better than Mullins and he’s a big price to repeat the mistakes of HDB (who ran Sizing John over 2m for 4 years before switching to Jessie and winning a Gold Cup)...

[Rhinestone_Cowboy]

With plenty of talk coming from the stable about running Alloha in the Marsh I remain far from convinced it was Willie’s preference to run him in the RSA and it was the owners that pulled rank. Even with this theory though it means there is a very good chance the owners will prefer to go for Gold Cup despite Willie and Co saying look he doesn’t stay well enough as proved by the RSA run.

[Istabraq]

With plenty of talk coming from the stable about running Alloha in the Marsh I remain far from convinced it was Willie’s preference to run him in the RSA and it was the owners that pulled rank. Even with this theory though it means there is a very good chance the owners will prefer to go for Gold Cup despite Willie and Co saying look he doesn’t stay well enough as proved by the RSA run.

Would love to hear archie’s response to that....