Ryanair 2020

[Kevloaf]

Read the article now. Bit preachy.

Side note - Is his tipping record actually that good? For the "king of the sectionals" which he seems to be, he doesn't exactly bang in winners from the fleeting glances I see.



If Traffic Fluide had stayed up, what price would Riders Onthe Storm have been pushed out to?
Maybe only 10s, but I reckon it'd have held for a lot longer.
If that had happened, and it was proven he didn't run effeciently, how keen would you be for him?
I'm just struggling to take the positives from the run... all he proved was he can go too fast

[Kevloaf]

“A Plus Tard in great form and I think we’re pretty much going for the Ryanair. We’ve left him in the Champion Chase and maybe if it came up bottomless you’d start to think about it, but I think we’re pretty much going for the Ryanair.





Not a big surprise to anyone


Jesus, 5/2 favourite though?



If I was starting this race from scratch it'd take me about 10 seconds to decide I was taking him on at that price... fortunately, I'm not

[Kevloaf]

How shite is this race actually...

5/2 A Plus Tard
7/2 Min
13/2 Frodon
8/1 Riders Onthe Storm
20/1 bar!


Un De Sceaux 20/1
Saint Kevisboss 25/1
Aso 33/1

All have an each way squeak?

[Quevega]

Read the article now. Bit preachy.

Side note - Is his tipping record actually that good? For the "king of the sectionals" which he seems to be, he doesn't exactly bang in winners from the fleeting glances I see.



If Traffic Fluide had stayed up, what price would Riders Onthe Storm have been pushed out to?
Maybe only 10s, but I reckon it'd have held for a lot longer.
If that had happened, and it was proven he didn't run efficiently, how keen would you be for him?
I'm just struggling to take the positives from the run... all he proved was he can go too fast

I think sectionals in National Hunt are something to dip in and out of as the variances in track, surface and everything else is simply too much.

But you can sometimes get clues and part explanations of some results. It can help to upgrade some defeats and/or victories, and also excuse some defeats or lesser performances.

I was particularly impressed how he went with and outlasted the highest rated horse in training on his own patch.
However, It's entirely possible he wasn't at his best, and Cyrname definitely didn't run efficiently.

I don't follow his tips and I'm not obsessed with sectionals after the event, as it does not provide any clue as to how the next race will be run in terms of pace. But pace and efficient running is 100% crucial to optimum performance.

[Quevega]

To add to that.

I had my biggest bet outside of the Prestbury cup and Quevega bets, when I had 28pts on Don Cossack for his Gold cup (aftertime but relevant, and he was favourite anyway so I won't be the only one)

But it was based on the timings and running of the King George where he supposedly fell because he was tired.
Cue Card and Vautour had definitely gone too fast that day too.

[taylorch1990]

How shite is this race actually...

5/2 A Plus Tard
7/2 Min
13/2 Frodon
8/1 Riders Onthe Storm
20/1 bar!


Un De Sceaux 20/1
Saint Kevisboss 25/1
Aso 33/1

All have an each way squeak?

Has Un De Sceaux been confirmed to be going for this? As much as he likes heavy ground I don't think he wants heavy ground in the Ryanair as he doesn't stay. But soft or better 20-1 is too big he must go off much shorter.

[Kevloaf]

Has Un De Sceaux been confirmed to be going for this? As much as he likes heavy ground I don't think he wants heavy ground in the Ryanair as he doesn't stay. But soft or better 20-1 is too big he must go off much shorter.

When I wrote the post I did put something about that being a freaking stupid price and then deleted it as I didn't want to swear and then never put it back in.


He's 12/1 NRNB, 20/1 available without and 25/1 on the exchange.

I'd love to see him in the QMCC though, and the NRNB prices aren't juicy enough with that being on my mind

[taylorch1990]

I dont want to get into another discussion about Min but Un De Sceaux has raced against him twice and beaten him both times. Granted they were over 2 miles and Min may be a better horse for further and Un De Sceaux is 12 but he doesnt seem to be on the decline yet and I've had a bit on him EW as that seems real value to me.

[taylorch1990]

Luckily managed to cash out for full stake on Un De Sceaux that bet literally last 12 hours.

[Joleg]

How shite is this race actually...

5/2 A Plus Tard
7/2 Min
13/2 Frodon
8/1 Riders Onthe Storm
20/1 bar!


Un De Sceaux 20/1
Saint Kevisboss 25/1
Aso 33/1

All have an each way squeak?

Agree totally, this race looks a pile of shite.

Have only backed A Plus Tard at 16-1 in here, i wouldnt go anywhere near it at 5-2.

I think we may have a decent priced winner here, just cant nail down which one to pin my colours too

[FaugheenTheMachine]

When you put it like that Kev it really does look awful and actually unlike most years it’s not taking anything from either the Champion Chase (people could argue about A Plus Tard but not for me) or the Gold Cup; it’s just a really poor renewal

[Can't Catch Me]

Its better than the CH isnt it?!

Think Min v APT is quite an exciting clash myself!

[Saxon Warrior]

Its better than the CH isnt it?!

Think Min v APT is quite an exciting clash myself!

Yep, I think a checkback to the depth of prior renewals required, to confirm if it’s a poor one.

[Hurricane fly]

There is no way I’m not getting tanked up and laying Frodon again

[Ray]

There is no way I’m not getting tanked up and laying Frodon again

Personally im looking forward to being a pissed moron doing muggy bets, waking up looking at my betting history and saying to myself..you desperate idiot