Queen Mother Champion Chase 2020

[Lobos]

What evidence do you have to back that claim up Lobos?

Different ownership there are LOADs of examples.


What he will do is split the pack to put the horses with the best chance....


You're assuming Chacun Pour Soi is number 1 and Cilaos Emery is number 2.

Where are Min, Un De Sceaux, Douvan, Duc Des Genivres

All grade 1 winning chasers....




Un De Sceaux and Min would EASILY beat Ornua - Cilaos Emery has to prove he's better than those yet before you start slotting Mullins' best chances anywhere?

Some of those mentioned may miss Cheltenham altogether. Will be difficult to shuffle that lot I agree but for me CE has a hell of a chance in the CC and is value compared to Chancun.

[Quevega]

I'd like to think that Chacun's King George entry is a sign of how good they think he is.
Great horses can win tingle creek's then King George's then champion chases then Gold Cups.

[darlojim]

Some of those mentioned may miss Cheltenham altogether. Will be difficult to shuffle that lot I agree but for me CE has a hell of a chance in the CC and is value compared to Chancun.

Cilaos Emery could easily miss cheltenham too, hes as fragile as any of those named..

[Kevloaf]

Some of those mentioned may miss Cheltenham altogether. Will be difficult to shuffle that lot I agree but for me CE has a hell of a chance in the CC and is value compared to Chancun.

Yeah they may, but CE may miss Cheltenham.

Then again, as a direct comparison between the two, Chacun is fragile too and ultimately I can see why you'd back CE over CPS if you were starting now.



The impession I get is that they consider CPS to be better than CE - but they've been pretty adament Douvan is the best horse in training and we haven't seen that yet.


Stable vides are only worth so much, and it's a small factor for me.

[archie]

While he's clearly useful, Cilaos Emery was entitled to do that in receipt of 11lb from 154 rated Ornua.

[Kevloaf]

No chance anything that ran in the Arkle last year is winning this race based on that race.


A Plus Tard no chance of dropping back either (don't think anyone on hear has said that) but a podcast or program definitely said it!

[Quevega]

Yep, get on the button for Chacun, just before altior runs next.
might be getting an odds on shot or a viable opponent ?
Or a non runner obviously.

[jonthehammer]

Such a shame CE didn't make it last March as he would have hosed up in that Arkle IMO

[AnFiieLD.]

Yep, get on the button for Chacun, just before altior runs next.
might be getting an odds on shot or a viable opponent ?
Or a non runner obviously.

Given Santini’s sluggish performance, does that increase the chance of Altior going to the gold cup for Henderson? Chacun could go off very short....

[Kevloaf]

Chacun / Altior double might appeal to some

[Kevloaf]

Alternatively..... Cyrname to win at Ascot doubled with Altior to win the QMCC?

[Scooby91]

Alternatively..... Cyrname to win at Ascot doubled with Altior to win the QMCC?

Surely he'd drift for the qmcc if he was beaten by cyrname ?

I'd be certain he'll improve for 2m4 , and cant comprehend cyrname beating him, I just wish they weren't going right handed on both counts.
I get the king george is a huge race, but it's not the right one. If he jumps way out to the left latches back on the bridle and runs down cyrname going away, like I expect.

Would they have the balls, to divert him to the savils chase. Probably not. But it would be the right call.

[Kevloaf]

Surely he'd drift for the qmcc if he was beaten by cyrname ?

I'd be certain he'll improve for 2m4 , and cant comprehend cyrname beating him, I just wish they weren't going right handed on both counts.
I get the king george is a huge race, but it's not the right one. If he jumps way out to the left latches back on the bridle and runs down cyrname going away, like I expect.

Would they have the balls, to divert him to the savils chase. Probably not. But it would be the right call.

I won't be backing it, just highlighting it for others who might want him onside.

I don't think they'd push him out for the QMCC if he lost, as it confirms his target.

Whether he SHOULD drift is another matter, but they won't push him out past 5/1 or whatever big price he's been.



Hopefully he wallops Cyrname.... I've said more than once that I literally don't care about whether it's right or not, I'm going to be with Altior for the KG because I am confident he's the best horse in training... and IF he does go on to be like Kauto Star, I want to have ridden the rollercoaster.



Got enough races and worries making money in other races, got to enjoy part of it at least

#TeamAltior

[jono]

Willie on Chacun Pour Soi and touches on Min

When asked if people were right to be getting excited about Chacun Pour Soi this season, Mullins said: "Yes. He's in great order.

"We'd been waiting for him to come out for a long time last season, but his run at Punchestown was exceptional.

"We have to try to repeat that form this year. He's in the John Durkan (at Punchestown next month), but there'll be others. I wouldn't want him and Min against each other at this point in time.

"He's comfortable at two miles, but I don't mind going out in trip. He'll get an entry in the Hilly Way, and there are not many more two-mile races around before Christmas.

"He's not fragile, but different things have happened - and because he's so good, I've been inclined to give him more of a break.

"Last year, when he came right, it was too late to go to Cheltenham - but I wanted to get him going. Sometimes when you get them on the track they stay sounder, and he's been good this year.

"I don't think ground is an issue- he's a good horse, he'll go on any ground.

"The John Durkan is probably the one definite place I can aim with Min - he likes the track, and if he's fine he'll go there."

[AnFiieLD.]

Makes for great reading if you’re a Chacun backer.