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RSA Chase 2020

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  • Lads, Faugheen would lap Minella Indo. Not sure how this is a debate, would agree that the mentioned horses all have better form than Minella Indo

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    • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
      Umm, yes read your bit that I've made bold...



      This is YOU, questioning ME, when I said Champ, Battleoverdoyen, Slate House and Faugheen have better form.

      You even went on to say they've beaten nothing, then a few posts later you're claiming to have never said Minella Indo had better form?
      This is me questioning you yes but where did I say Minellas form is better ???

      I’m saying the form means jack.

      I’ve also said minella has beaten nothing the same as the others listed.

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      • Originally posted by Kautothegreat8 View Post
        I would say Cheltenham form trumps all
        Champ has decent Cheltenham form doesn't he?
        2nd in a Ballymore and was leading when falling at the last? Certianly couldn't say Cheltenham is a negative for him.



        Faugheen has better Cheltenham form than Minella Indo too


        Slate House has 3 wins at Cheltenham in his CV too.

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        • Originally posted by Kautothegreat8 View Post
          I would say Cheltenham form trumps all
          But is that not just being selective about the dreaded "this horse beat that horse" discussion you so detest?

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          • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
            Champ has decent Cheltenham form doesn't he?
            2nd in a Ballymore and was leading when falling at the last? Certianly couldn't say Cheltenham is a negative for him.



            Faugheen has better Cheltenham form than Minella Indo too


            Slate House has 3 wins at Cheltenham in his CV too.
            Faugheen isn’t coming here so again it’s none conversation

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            • Originally posted by robith View Post
              But is that not just being selective about the dreaded "this horse beat that horse" discussion you so detest?

              Don’t understand what your saying ??

              Of all places Cheltenham form is massive

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              • Originally posted by Kautothegreat8 View Post
                Faugheen isn’t coming here so again it’s none conversation
                Ok, so it's as simple as Cheltenham wins:


                3 - Slate House
                1 - Minella Indo
                0 - Battleoverdoyen
                0 - Champ


                I'll get my coat.

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                • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                  Ok, so it's as simple as Cheltenham wins:


                  3 - Slate House
                  1 - Minella Indo
                  0 - Battleoverdoyen
                  0 - Champ


                  I'll get my coat.
                  Cheltenham festival wins Kev

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                  • Originally posted by Kautothegreat8 View Post
                    Cheltenham festival wins Kev
                    Ah, we change the relevance of course form - okay:


                    1 - Minella Indo
                    0 - Battleoverdoyen
                    0 - Champ
                    0 - Slate House


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                    Now I see why you can't possibly see any other winner of the race.


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                    • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                      Ah, we change the relevance of course form - okay:


                      1 - Minella Indo
                      0 - Battleoverdoyen
                      0 - Champ
                      0 - Slate House


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                      Now I see why you can't possibly see any other winner of the race.


                      Of course he’s not a certainty but is there anything that stands out after watching the way he won last year over the distance ??? For me I’m struggling. I actually think it’s quite a poor RSA and won’t take much winning. Minellas the stand out horse without doubt.

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                      • If they win, these are my returns for this race:
                        28 pts live, and 4.7 pts down from Non Runners / Cash outs

                        93.4 pts - Allaho
                        85.8 pts - Minella Indo
                        84.0 pts - Battleoverdoyen
                        66.0 pts - Carefully Selected
                        56.8 pts - Sam Brown
                        50.0 pts - Slate House
                        26.0 pts - Champ
                        13.0 pts - Samcro
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                        Will copy this to my own thread shortly but relevant here for now.
                        A very obvious correction I feel I need to make is that at the moment, if the ante post fav wins I'd make a small loss of 6.7 pts. (I've backed all these each way so that's actually unlikely BUT, I do want more on Champ which I'll have to think about in the next few weeks.

                        Allaho is RSA and Any Race which is why he's so high, may have to lay some of that off.

                        I have the first 5 in the betting backed, Faugheen is 16/1 (but only ever a NRNB or free bet prospect in my head) and then 20/1 only 3 horses which are Allaho, Black Op and Samcro.
                        It is then 25/1 bar, and nothing I'm really bothered about covering.
                        Last edited by Kevloaf; 20 January 2020, 12:01 AM.

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                        • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                          If they win, these are my returns for this race:
                          28 pts live, and 4.7 pts down from Non Runners / Cash outs

                          93.4 pts - Allaho
                          85.8 pts - Minella Indo
                          84.0 pts - Battleoverdoyen
                          66.0 pts - Carefully Selected
                          56.8 pts - Sam Brown
                          50.0 pts - Slate House
                          26.0 pts - Champ

                          ---------------------------------------------------

                          Will copy this to my own thread shortly but relevant here for now.

                          A very obvious correction I need to make is that at the moment, if the ante post fav wins I'd make a small loss
                          The one horse I really hope doesn’t turn up here is Carefully Selected as he would be a major threat.

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                          • I like the way Battleoverdoyen jumps fences (looks a real natural) but he does have course form to overcome.

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                            • Originally posted by Kautothegreat8 View Post
                              The one horse I really hope doesn’t turn up here is Carefully Selected as he would be a major threat.
                              Odds on to be in the NH Chase I'd think... which I'm hoping means Allaho runs here rather than Faugheen as that'd scupper me a bit.

                              A lot actually.

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                              • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                                Odds on to be in the NH Chase I'd think... which I'm hoping means Allaho runs here rather than Faugheen as that'd scupper me a bit.

                                A lot actually.
                                Hi Kev - me again! I don't think Allaho is certain to run here either. I've a feeling they're considering the Marsh

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