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RSA Chase 2020

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  • Originally posted by ELEGANTLY TASTED View Post
    Barry Geraghty being unfairly made a scapegoat. The horse is a nutter its as simple as that.
    You must be the most contentious poster on here

    Find you entertaining on occasions

    I’m no Bazza fan but to say the horse is a nutter is utter bollocks

    IMO

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    • Champ is certainly dividing opinion, seems to be mirroring might bite's novice season albeit i'm not sure Champ has as much scope. After he fell to day, he got straight up went back past two others and pinged the last so i wouldn't worry if anyone thinks he needs a confidence booster

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      • Hendo - Thank you for all your messages of concern re Champ who is slightly sore in his shoulder but at this stage it appears nothing more than that. Might Bite will be scoped. A slightly frustrating day at the office but that’s racing.

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        • Sounds from Hendo post race comments that Champ likely to go straight to RSA.

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          • Derlann De Carjac ran well below form, perhaps needs better ground but getting beat by 130 rated Paint The Dream confirms he ran well below form. A bit fortunate to land my ew 3 places on that one.
            Midnight Shadow was only 3 lengths down and still in the race when champ fell 2 out. 2 out is a long way from hime and uphill and I wouldnt be certain that Champ would have won had he stayed on his feet. If Champ did end up in the RSA (doubtful imo as hurdling looks the correct call for the horse) then he will be facing much tougher rivals than he met today at the festival.

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            • Originally posted by ELEGANTLY TASTED View Post
              Derlann De Carjac ran well below form, perhaps needs better ground but getting beat by 130 rated Paint The Dream confirms he ran well below form. A bit fortunate to land my ew 3 places on that one.
              Midnight Shadow was only 3 lengths down and still in the race when champ fell 2 out. 2 out is a long way from hime and uphill and I wouldnt be certain that Champ would have won had he stayed on his feet. If Champ did end up in the RSA (doubtful imo as hurdling looks the correct call for the horse) then he will be facing much tougher rivals than he met today at the festival.
              Did he bounce again?

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              • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post
                Did he bounce again?
                Champ was the only one who bounced in this race.

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                • Seeing how the other horses finished the race there is no doubt Champ would have won by 20 lengths if he had not fallen but he did and I was expecting him to fall at some point. He is a powerful traveller but not a naturally talented jumper. Like Yorkhill, if he can avoid falling or dismounting he will probably win the RSA but with the risk attached to his price he’s poor value at 7/2. I wouldn’t be surprised if he kept it together on the day but he will fall again. I also think he would race better with horses in front of him. With the lack of pace yesterday he didn’t have the choice but he will hopefully get the opportunity to be held up mid pack in the RSA and he can follow other horses instead of being out in front jumping.

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                  • There is a doubt as to if Champ would have won yesterday. Midnight Warrior was only 3 lengths down and 2 out is a long way from home.
                    On the two previous times Champ ran up a hill he didnt see his race out and his turn of foot didnt work so to say that race was over and in the bag is fantasy. The relaity is we dont know what would have happened.
                    Champ certainly hadnt mastered Midnight Shadow at his point of departure.
                    Last edited by ELEGANTLY TASTED; 2 January 2020, 08:45 AM.

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                    • Champ not quoted on Unibet for this atm?

                      I’m not scaremongering simply stating a fact , anyone know why as he’s still quoted by all others?

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                      • Originally posted by The King Pimm View Post
                        Seeing how the other horses finished the race there is no doubt Champ would have won by 20 lengths if he had not fallen but he did and I was expecting him to fall at some point. He is a powerful traveller but not a naturally talented jumper. Like Yorkhill, if he can avoid falling or dismounting he will probably win the RSA but with the risk attached to his price he’s poor value at 7/2. I wouldn’t be surprised if he kept it together on the day but he will fall again. I also think he would race better with horses in front of him. With the lack of pace yesterday he didn’t have the choice but he will hopefully get the opportunity to be held up mid pack in the RSA and he can follow other horses instead of being out in front jumping.
                        I'd be reluctant to start calling the number of lengths but yes, it looked like he would have won.

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                        • Originally posted by charlie View Post
                          I'd be reluctant to start calling the number of lengths but yes, it looked like he would have won.
                          I just rewatched the race and most of Champs jumping was decent enough and he was powering ahead before falling. 20 lengths is probably an over estimate but he had all the horses behind treading water and they would have struggled to reign him in. Fortunately the fall didn’t appear too bad so not all is lost.

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                          • Originally posted by Humble Pie View Post
                            Champ not quoted on Unibet for this atm?

                            I’m not scaremongering simply stating a fact , anyone know why as he’s still quoted by all others?

                            I just had a look and unibet have removed Champ from the JLT and RSA market though still price him up for champ hurdle and stayers hurdle.

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                            • Originally posted by ELEGANTLY TASTED View Post
                              There is a doubt as to if Champ would have won yesterday. Midnight Warrior was only 3 lengths down and 2 out is a long way from home.
                              On the two previous times Champ ran up a hill he didnt see his race out and his turn of foot didnt work so to say that race was over and in the bag is fantasy. The relaity is we dont know what would have happened.
                              Champ certainly hadnt mastered Midnight Shadow at his point of departure.
                              Jesus ET lol lol lol lol lol lol.

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                              • Originally posted by billymag View Post
                                Jesus ET lol lol lol lol lol lol.
                                The race was still alive? Champ has NEVER found anything up a hill (chelt and ascot), Midnight Shadow thrives on cheltenhams hill.
                                Anybody saying that a horse 3 lengths up at the 2nd last had the race in the bag 100% guaranteed does not know what they are talking about.

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