RSA Chase 2020

[Kautothegreat8]

We’re not gonna find out anything new about Champ tomorrow. Bit like last season really, it’s all about the big day in March.

[Humble Pie]

We’re not gonna find out anything new about Champ tomorrow. Bit like last season really, it’s all about the big day in March.

Improved jumping?

[Kautothegreat8]

Improved jumping?

He’ll need to jump better but honestly I just can’t have him for March. If he wasn’t called champ with the back story behind him, I don’t actually think he’d be favourite. For what he’s done the 7/2 on offer is nothing less than a disgrace. Minella Indo should be favourite for his form last spring and how he won at Cheltenham. If champ would have come out this term jumping well and beating these horses that he should beat convincingly, I could kind of understand it but he hasn’t. Hasn’t convinced on either start and I’m very happy to take him on.

[Humble Pie]

He’ll need to jump better but honestly I just can’t have him for March. If he wasn’t called champ with the back story behind him, I don’t actually think he’d be favourite. For what he’s done the 7/2 on offer is nothing less than a disgrace. Minella Indo should be favourite for his form last spring and how he won at Cheltenham. If champ would have come out this term jumping well and beating these horses that he should beat convincingly, I could kind of understand it but he hasn’t. Hasn’t convinced on either start and I’m very happy to take him on.

Agree with all of that .
Jumping is the name of the game , I’ve covered Champ @10’s but Minella for me .
Media and McCoy JP and NH , if those connections were behind MI then he’d be 7/2

[Lobos]

He’ll need to jump better but honestly I just can’t have him for March. If he wasn’t called champ with the back story behind him, I don’t actually think he’d be favourite. For what he’s done the 7/2 on offer is nothing less than a disgrace. Minella Indo should be favourite for his form last spring and how he won at Cheltenham. If champ would have come out this term jumping well and beating these horses that he should beat convincingly, I could kind of understand it but he hasn’t. Hasn’t convinced on either start and I’m very happy to take him on.

That's the point though. Hendo has put him in over 2 1/2 miles so far in order to sharpen his jumping up and increase his speed, both of which is needed in RSA. He'll be a much better proposition once he steps up to 3. He us a worthy fav.

[ELEGANTLY TASTED]

Pym is currently rated 152 the same as Champ. The only horse alive to beat Pym over fences was Deyrenn De Carjac and not only did he beat him he destroyed him giving him 5lb.

What chance does Champ stand giving Deyrenn 5lb at a track that isnt flat?

The team say very little.

The 2 times Champs turbo didnt kick in and he got beat was at Cheltenham and Ascot both stiff finishes.

I feel Champ fans are going to feel very disappointed after tomorrows race.

[billymag]

Its fair enough ET, no one is saying Deyrenn de Carjac isnt good horse and at the weights Champ has a stiff task, good luck with your bet, personally cant wait to see Champ go up the hill to see what hes got.

[ELEGANTLY TASTED]

Midnight Shadow is held in high regard and he ran a career best and won on this card last year on his 4th run. He is likely to run a big race and is a danger to all. Best off at the weights despite dropping 5lb after his first 3 chases.
The Sue Smith yard were in horrendous form for this horses previous runs this season but are going well now. He could be worth his previous rating of 155 ehich would put him 8lb well in with champ and conditions will suit. Very dangerous rival here.

[Quevega]

Midnight Shadow is held in high regard and he ran a career best and won on this card last year on his 4th run. He is likely to run a big race and is a danger to all. Best off at the weights despite dropping 5lb after his first 3 chases.
The Sue Smith yard were in horrendous form for this horses previous runs this season but are going well now. He could be worth his previous rating of 155 ehich would put him 8lb well in with champ and conditions will suit. Very dangerous rival here.

I've backed him tomorrow, as for some reason I like him, even though he might just be a travelling pig (not as big a pig as Lami Serge though)

[Scooby91]

Midnight Shadow is held in high regard and he ran a career best and won on this card last year on his 4th run. He is likely to run a big race and is a danger to all. Best off at the weights despite dropping 5lb after his first 3 chases.
The Sue Smith yard were in horrendous form for this horses previous runs this season but are going well now. He could be worth his previous rating of 155 ehich would put him 8lb well in with champ and conditions will suit. Very dangerous rival here.

His mark is nonsense,
he received 9 pounds and was still beaten by keeper hill. Who's a consistent 145 horse. And consequently now badly handicapped himself

[ELEGANTLY TASTED]

His mark is nonsense,
he received 9 pounds and was still beaten by keeper hill. Who's a consistent 145 horse. And consequently now badly handicapped himself

I would probably ignore this seasons form as the stable was in such bad form. Different proposition here.

[Middle_Of_March]

Pym is currently rated 152 the same as Champ. The only horse alive to beat Pym over fences was Deyrenn De Carjac and not only did he beat him he destroyed him giving him 5lb.

What chance does Champ stand giving Deyrenn 5lb at a track that isnt flat?

The team say very little.

The 2 times Champs turbo didnt kick in and he got beat was at Cheltenham and Ascot both stiff finishes.

I feel Champ fans are going to feel very disappointed after tomorrows race.

In fairness, it depends on how you view ratings.

Whilst they officially have the same mark, in my head Champ would beat Pym easily every single time. From any distance between 2 and a half and 3 miles on any track. Just my opinion though.

[Humble Pie]

In fairness, it depends on how you view ratings.

Whilst they officially have the same mark, in my head Champ would beat Pym easily every single time. From any distance between 2 and a half and 3 miles on any track. Just my opinion though.

Please let’s not start the New Year off with ratings , it’s up to the individual to place what value they feel is correct .

I’m completely ambivalent about Champ , personally I enjoy watching Minella Indo jump a fence far more than Champ , whether he has a similar engine we will soon find out if both line up fit and ready

Pym I would agree with you

[ELEGANTLY TASTED]

Champ antepost backers are in an awkward position. If Champ wins today then he is almost certain to run in the JLT. If he gets exposed and beaten today they are going to blame it on the trip and run him in the RSA.

9of his 10 runs over 2m 4ish bar the 3m on the flat easy track. Yet punters somehow got convinced that he was RSA. Good job media.

[ELEGANTLY TASTED]

https://www.unibet.co.uk/blog/horse-racing/jump-racing/nicky-henderson-this-could-reveal-whether-champ-is-a-jlt-or-rsa-horse-1.1338801

"We looked at the Kauto Star (Feltham) on Boxing Day but this race just gave us another week after Newbury so the plan had been to come here for a while and it will also give him valuable experience over fences at the course. Whether we go down the RSA route or JLT (of which I see he’s favourite with Unibet for both races) will be a lot clearer after this but I’m extremely happy with him and see no reason why he shouldn’t put up a very bold show"


Wins today and its JLT. Gets exposed and its RSA.

So what are Champ rsa backers feeling? What do you want to happen today. A brilliant win (that ends your antepost bet) or a defeat that means the RSA may be the new option.

Only the media drove people to the RSA not Nickys actions (10/11 races over JLT type trip strongly suggest he has always been campaigned for the JLT). The media work for the bookmakers.