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All I’m saying is this ......... the 140 rating given to Minella Indo isn’t scientific fact is it ? It’s the opinions and workings out of an external body. If all of these rating were facts, we’d all be millionaires
Isn’t it this straight forward? To conclude Minella Indo hasn’t or hasn’t been impressive can only be opinion. I would also agree with Kautothegreat8 that the official ratings are also based on opinion not scientific fact. There are simply too many presently unmeasurable variables it could only possible be based on opinion. I think the handicappers themselves would readily admit that. That said, in my view Minella Indo hasn’t been as impressive as he might have been. Given the form of Henry De Bromhead one might have hoped to have seen a more impressive performance. Despite the adequate performances I still think he has a big performance in him.
I think the RSA victory is between: Battleoverdoyen, Champ and Minella Indo. I struggle to see beyond these three. I think it will depend upon who turns up best on the day, as they are all capable of winning.
Originally posted by Cheltenham Novice ChaseView Post
Isn’t it this straight forward? To conclude Minella Indo hasn’t or hasn’t been impressive can only be opinion. I would also agree with Kautothegreat8 that the official ratings are also based on opinion not scientific fact. There are simply too many presently unmeasurable variables it could only possible be based on opinion. I think the handicappers themselves would readily admit that. That said, in my view Minella Indo hasn’t been as impressive as he might have been. Given the form of Henry De Bromhead one might have hoped to have seen a more impressive performance. Despite the adequate performances I still think he has a big performance in him.
I think the RSA victory is between: Battleoverdoyen, Champ and Minella Indo. I struggle to see beyond these three. I think it will depend upon who turns up best on the day, as they are all capable of winning.
I would also mention Willie Mullins , he will want a live chance here and I can see either Faugheen or Allaho coming here , as The Marsh Chase Willie might have either of these two plus maybe Melon and Laurina
Slate house clearly flopped this week-end but judging by tizzards comments post race and the money that came in for him it's clear they were expecting a much better run.
For whatever reason he was no good and you wouldn't want to be going to cheltenham on the back of that....if he can put that behind him is he a bet at 16's.
Im unsure wether he's worth a pop at that price or not.
Slate house clearly flopped this week-end but judging by tizzards comments post race and the money that came in for him it's clear they were expecting a much better run.
For whatever reason he was no good and you wouldn't want to be going to cheltenham on the back of that....if he can put that behind him is he a bet at 16's.
Im unsure wether he's worth a pop at that price or not.
At the price I am now leaning towards yes.
The fact Colin placed him in the race and was 'astonished' post race that he had pulled up says a lot, and he was well fancied. I take the view he lost little in defeat. Never traveled, made loads of mistakes and despite that was moving into 4th as they turned for home. He had no right to be there at that stage IMO and RP did the right thing in easing him down as the winners were clearly uncatchable.
You want a battle hardened novice for the RSA and every experience is a learning experience. Slate House would be 2/3 at Cheltenham this season had he stayed on his feet in the BetVictor Gold Cup and I think 16/1 could be a slight over reaction.
Slate House struggled, I do agree with this, though he was racing outside of novice company, so I give him a little bit of leeway, though haven't and probably won't end up backing him.
I do also agree that if that was Champ jumping like that he'd have been battered on here, there is a this bias it would seem.
I could never have slate house he just didnt make the trip, like i said somewhere else hes more of a jlt for me
He won't have the extra furlong in March, he'll have a trip he's already won at, so not sure why he wouldn't be able to do it again.
I'm not fully defending him, as I won't be backing him, as just think he will fall short of the top level, but the bigger prices some have, I can see the attraction, for a place, anyway.
I could never have slate house he just didnt make the trip, like i said somewhere else hes more of a jlt for me
He is a Grade 1, 3 mile chase winner.
Knocking him for the trip is wide of the mark?
A strongly run front running 2m5f race on the New Course versus a 3m trip on the Old Course isn't as big a difference as it's made out though, I think loads of horses would do well in either race.
I could never have slate house he just didn't make the trip, like i said somewhere else hes more of a jlt for me
Aside from being a Grade 1 winner over 3m, do you really think the Tizzard's are pitching him in open company at Cheltenham over 3m1f if they had even the slightest doubt he wouldn't stay?
A strongly run front running 2m5f race on the New Course versus a 3m trip on the Old Course isn't as big a difference as it's made out though, I think loads of horses would do well in either race.
Just for clarification I make it 4 1/2f difference between distances of JLT vs RSA
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