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  • Originally posted by TCH29 View Post
    Surely 2m only favours Fakir given the speed of his jumping?

    When you look at it like that, he surely goes Arkle...and it should encourage Samcro and Laurina go JLT. Both have been shown up at 2 miles over hurdles, but they travel well and Samcro has won at the festival over 2 and a half.

    I agree with Scooby, in a rematch, Samcro beats Fakir comfortably at 2 and a half. However at 2m, i’d call it very even, possibly with Fakir the choice.

    Given all that, I think O’Brien is too canny to not play to Fakir’s strengths and therefore will stick him in the Arkle.
    Fakir wasn't exactly Istabraq ove hurdles either, in fact, he wasn't better than either of them.

    His jumping is an asset, but things are going to get much harder for him. Laurina>Arkle.

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    • If Laurina goes for the Arkle......

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      • Tornado Flyer entered at Navan Saturday

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        • Originally posted by jack1092 View Post
          Tornado Flyer entered at Navan Saturday
          Lovely, thanks Jack

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          • Melon in the 2m 4f chase at Navan too, I think?

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            • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
              Melon in the 2m 4f chase at Navan too, I think?
              I reckon they will campaign Melon over 2m4f up till Cheltenham and then drop him into the Arkle at the very last minute.

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              • Originally posted by charlie View Post
                I reckon they will campaign Melon over 2m4f up till Cheltenham and then drop him into the Arkle at the very last minute.
                Every chance still, yeah.

                Though if he travels well over that trip and wins well (which potentially he could be entitled to do) they would have to be thinking JLT all the way.
                Last edited by ComplyOrDie; 3 December 2019, 12:55 PM.

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                • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                  Melon in the 2m 4f chase at Navan too, I think?
                  Yep! with Canardier, Max Dynamite and others.....

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                  • Max Dynamite?

                    Hadn't realised he was going chasing!

                    He's been well fancied for some races hasn't he... County Hurdle, Melbourne Cup, Royal Ascot...Ran in a group 1 in Sha Tin too.


                    Also entered over hurdles. Love it.

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                    • Looks like Tornado Flyer may be running at Navan in the grade 3 Novices on Saturday.
                      I reckon Willie has seen the form (looking a bit dubious) and opted to see him again at this level before considering stepping up.
                      I think he'd want him to put up a good performance Saturday to keep him in the A team.
                      Need to decide whether to cover him if he's declared later this week.
                      Thinking not at this stage, as I have plenty.
                      But we'll see.

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                      • Originally posted by quevega View Post
                        I'd put a good dozen horses ahead of him right now.
                        Think Mr Nichols decision shows you what he thinks of the form, it's hardly stacking up is it ?

                        A lot has to go in his favour as regards to opposition falling away, and he needs to improve a fair bit.
                        Wouldn't say at 33-1 he's an absolute no-hoper though.
                        Hilarious. Name the dozen.
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                        • Laurina
                          Fakir
                          Melon
                          Angel's Breath
                          Put the kettle on
                          Fanions destruval
                          Brewinupastorm
                          Notebook
                          Torpillo
                          Mister Fisher
                          Lisp
                          Cash back

                          It's like that gameshow on saturday night with that bearded fella.

                          If any of those were in a race against Al Dancer I'd prefer to back them.
                          And it's hard for you to state a strong case on actual form on the racecourse (hurdle or novice chasing) against it.
                          It'd have to be guesswork on weight allowances and race fitness etc etc.

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                          • Originally posted by quevega View Post
                            Laurina
                            Fakir
                            Melon
                            Angel's Breath
                            Put the kettle on
                            Fanions destruval
                            Brewinupastorm
                            Notebook
                            Torpillo
                            Mister Fisher
                            Lisp
                            Cash back

                            It's like that gameshow on saturday night with that bearded fella.

                            If any of those were in a race against Al Dancer I'd prefer to back them.
                            And it's hard for you to state a strong case on actual form on the racecourse (hurdle or novice chasing) against it.
                            It'd have to be guesswork on weight allowances and race fitness etc etc.

                            Laurina and fanion destruval I'd agree.
                            But we've no idea if they will make it to the arkle.

                            notebook I'd have on around a par with al dancer at this stage

                            Brewin
                            Torpillo
                            Cashback
                            Lisp
                            Mister Fisher
                            Have all done absolutely zero to date. Al dancer jumps fine and imo would have all these covered over hurdles or fences.

                            Melon is going over further, as is Angel's breath. Will they drop back, who knows but its not currently the plan

                            Fakir is running around with 10 pounds in hand and would have got a pasting by samcro imo. Nothing behind would be anywhere near an arkle. He faced a melon on seasonal debut who'd been in shitty form previously receiving 10.

                            I wouldnt be thinking fakirs all that just yet
                            Last edited by Scooby91; 3 December 2019, 08:27 PM.
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                            • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                              Laurina and fanion destruval I'd agree.
                              But we've no idea if they will make it to the arkle.

                              notebook I'd have on around a par with al dancer at this stage

                              Brewin
                              Torpillo
                              Cashback
                              Lisp
                              Mister Fisher
                              Have all done absolutely zero to date. Al dancer jumps fine and imo would have all these covered over hurdles or fences.

                              Melon is going over further, as is al dancer. Will they drop back, who knows but its not currently the plan
                              Freudian slip there Scooby.
                              But likely to happen IMO.

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                              • we're in wrong thread too

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