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  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
    Honestly, you are wasting your time backing her for Arkle. She will not be running over 2 miles again. She'll go for JLT or if good ground she'll end up in the RSA. Please don't back her for Arkle.
    Laurina 4/1 for Arkle with B365, you then have 19 horses back to Melon @ 25/1 and then Tornado Flyer @ 33/1. Willie always runs one in the Arkle and as it stands, it’s most likely her. With Willie saying ‘I wouldn’t mind going back to two’ combined with the JLT looking more competitive (at the moment), I’d say it’s highly premature to say she won’t be running over 2 miles again. If I wasn’t on already I wouldn’t back her for an Arkle because the price is really short and she could go JLT. If she goes JLT and Melon Arkle there will be nobody happier than me

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    • Originally posted by somer1 View Post
      Thinks Laurina is a bit of a bully. Looks good but will always find one to good at the top table.Got her in a double in the JLT but thinks there will will be one to good for her.
      You may be right. But think if that 1 is Samcro then we would have been treated to some race. Personally think Laurina will come out on top in a match up but it will be close. Reckon Mullins will be right up for a fight with Gordon.
      Last edited by Lobos; 23 November 2019, 07:19 PM.

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      • I don’t think you should be saying don’t back a horse for a particular race unless you know something everyone else doesn’t. Your opinion that she won’t go to the Arkle is fine but in reality it’s just a guess at this stage, FWIW I would think she’d turn up in the Arkle rather than JLT. Jared pushed for the champion hurdle last year and I can see him doing the same for the Arkle.

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        • Originally posted by monkfish View Post
          I don’t think you should be saying don’t back a horse for a particular race unless you know something everyone else doesn’t. Your opinion that she won’t go to the Arkle is fine but in reality it’s just a guess at this stage, FWIW I would think she’d turn up in the Arkle rather than JLT. Jared pushed for the champion hurdle last year and I can see him doing the same for the Arkle.
          It's not a guess. It's 38 years of watching top class racing. She will not be going Arkle. I can't make it any clearer than that.

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          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
            It's not a guess. It's 38 years of watching top class racing. She will not be going Arkle. I can't make it any clearer than that.
            opinion or fact?

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            • Originally posted by darlojim View Post
              opinion or fact?
              Personal opinion.

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              • And there’s people out there with the opinion that the earth is flat and would be as definitive as you saying Laurina won’t go for the Arkle.

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                • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                  It's not a guess. It's 38 years of watching top class racing. She will not be going Arkle. I can't make it any clearer than that.
                  Willie commenced training in 1988 so you’ve had 31 years to see him be predictably unpredictable, right up to the last minute. Nobody can be sure, but everyone can guess.

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                  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                    It's not a guess. It's 38 years of watching top class racing. She will not be going Arkle. I can't make it any clearer than that.
                    It's still a guess tbf Lobos. Only one man knows where she will turn up and we all know hewon't even decide until early march, at the earliest!

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                    • Originally posted by monkfish View Post
                      And there’s people out there with the opinion that the earth is flat and would be as definitive as you saying Laurina won’t go for the Arkle.
                      And guess what........I'm a flat earth believer. Please don't get me going on that one ! Lol ! Just trying to pass my opinion on. It may be stronger than some like on here but when I'm passionate about something I'm not afraid to voice it. Apologies if it offends anyone, but that's just me and I'm sure people will get used to it after a time. Take my advice or leave it, I'm not fussed either way.

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                      • Sounds like something Mr Trump would say!
                        "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                          It's not a guess. It's 38 years of watching top class racing. She will not be going Arkle. I can't make it any clearer than that.
                          Lobos you may have 38 years of watching top class racing , I have more experience than you but that does not mean I’m a better judge than you .
                          You DO NOT KNOW
                          It’s your opinion , just as it was your opinion that BDD would run in the Stayers despite Mullins stating she would run in theMares and others posting that fact.
                          Like everyone on this site you are entitled to your opinion , often belligerently so IMO -)))))
                          The written word is easily misinterpreted

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                          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                            And guess what........I'm a flat earth believer. Please don't get me going on that one ! Lol ! Just trying to pass my opinion on. It may be stronger than some like on here but when I'm passionate about something I'm not afraid to voice it. Apologies if it offends anyone, but that's just me and I'm sure people will get used to it after a time. Take my advice or leave it, I'm not fussed either way.
                            I like your passion Lobos but positive discussion becomes very difficult when people make unexplained definitive statements. It’s not conducive to positive debate/discussion and often leads to a relentless back and forth that moves away from discussing other contenders and information people might find useful. I like the fact you don’t sit on the fence and you make your view clear, fair play.

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                            • If it comes up testing like the last two years, then yes, she's going to be difficult to beat

                              If the ground comes up good-soft, and the field cuts up (5-6 runners), then she could be vulnerable.

                              As it stands, I'm with Fakir at double figures and will be more than happy to cover that with some Laurina double/trebles

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                              • Would Laurina’s target not be very ground dependent? Soft ground surely goes Arkle, good ground JLT?

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