Arkle 2020

[taylorch1990]

Honestly at this point I have backed Fakir D only, but am coming round to the idea that 25/1 on Notebook is massive, looking at those that are shorter than him currently in the market.

So Fakir-Notebook-Melon of those three.

Also have liked Nube Negra’s two jumping runs, and the plan is to go into the big time with him at Sandown next timeout,
It’s all on visuals, not ratings, but he is the one that has impressed me in Britain.

Agree with this luckily I had a bit on notebook at 50s before yesterday but went back in at 25s after todays racing. Also had a bit of the 50s for Nube Negra when he was pushed out by betfair after his second win. Like I said earlier Fakir and Brewin look the 2 most likely atm but I don't want to have the whole field covered and I'm at 4 now so that's my limit.

[JackieMoon33]

Star quality

Laurina
6m Spanish Moon - Lamboghina
Sullivan Bloodstock Ltd
111/114-
RPR 160h OR 159h
A fine big mare who has always looked a chaser in the making. She won six of her seven starts over hurdles for us and her only defeat came in the Champion Hurdle when she finished fourth. She has schooled well over fences and we’re looking forward to starting her off, either in a 2m2f mares' beginners' chase at Thurles on Thursday or over 2m4f at Gowran on Saturday. She has the potential to make a big impact.

[JackieMoon33]

Tornado Flyer
6g Flemensfirth - Mucho Macabi
TFP Partnership
31/1P-41
RPR 143c
He won the Grade 1 bumper at the Punchestown festival in 2018 but had a limited campaign last season, failing to win in two starts after scoring on his hurdling debut. We always felt that chasing would be his game and he started off with a win at Naas this month. He should progress and do well in good races. He's in the Drinmore at Fairyhouse on December 1, but I'd say it's more likely we'll wait for the Racing Post Novice Chase at Leopardstown's Christmas meeting.

[Run4Home]

Seems as if Tornado Flyer could be Mullins Arkle horse for now anyway - if so given the way it'll cut up 33/1 could perhaps be huge value?
Comments & Entries suggest Melon & Laurina want further with the JLT the obvious although wouldn't be at all surprising to see one end up here come March.

[charlie]

Tornado Flyer
6g Flemensfirth - Mucho Macabi
TFP Partnership
31/1P-41
RPR 143c
He won the Grade 1 bumper at the Punchestown festival in 2018 but had a limited campaign last season, failing to win in two starts after scoring on his hurdling debut. We always felt that chasing would be his game and he started off with a win at Naas this month. He should progress and do well in good races. He's in the Drinmore at Fairyhouse on December 1, but I'd say it's more likely we'll wait for the Racing Post Novice Chase at Leopardstown's Christmas meeting.

Kev gave this a big shout few pages back. On.

[Scooby91]

Seems as if Tornado Flyer could be Mullins Arkle horse for now anyway - if so given the way it'll cut up 33/1 could perhaps be huge value?
Comments & Entries suggest Melon & Laurina want further with the JLT the obvious although wouldn't be at all surprising to see one end up here come March.

I cant lie i'd fancy laurina in an arkle. I just feel she'd be better over 2m4. But if they want to put her in the arkle, i'd be pretty pleased, as iv pretty much took my swing at the race. And I wouldn't mind her staying away from samcro.

[charlie]

I cant lie i'd fancy laurina in an arkle. I just feel she'd be better over 2m4. But if they want to put her in the arkle, i'd be pretty pleased, as iv pretty much took my swing at the race. And I wouldn't mind her staying away from samcro.

My thoughts exactly

[delsie777]

We know that you need a strong staying novice for an Arkle so I think this will be Laurina's race. I would be disappointed if she didn't prove to be better than the Tornado Flyer we saw last week. I know he made that glaring mistake but still, just didn't look like an Arkle winner to me. I would worry that Laurina would be ground down in a JLT

[Quevega]

Melon - 25-1 now with B365
Even tempting me.
Tornado also tempting at 33s
But looked a bit ropey last time

[Quevega]

Had a good think and whilst I'm happy with arkle bets at the moment.
Lots can still happen.
Melon ew 25-1 is fine.
B365 have gone very big on this for some reason (probably for the mugs who've already backed him) and the cashout position.

He ran well enough the other day behind the current favourite of those that have run (giving weight he won't have to give in March).
Come cheltenham I could easily see them reverting here (will depend on who else is around for WP Mullins though)
Only issue is he could go a bigger price when he disapoints next time. But he might run well enough, and this price might be tempting others like me and not last long either.
Every chance that Laurina is very short on the day, the way it's going.

will leave tornado till his next entry.

[The King Pimm]

Do you think B365 know something about Melon we don’t? That’s a very generous price for a horse of his stature and who finished 2nd in his chase debut. I’m going to cash out on Jon Snow and put it on Melon at 25/1 but think it’s too good to be true

[ComplyOrDie]

Do you think B365 know something about Melon we don’t? That’s a very generous price for a horse of his stature and who finished 2nd in his chase debut. I’m going to cash out on Jon Snow and put it on Melon at 25/1 but think it’s too good to be true

Yeah, the bit where Willie has said he'll probably put him out in trip I suspect. 365 have taken that literally and pushed him out for this. Personally I think he needs a trip now, so can't see him being Arkle bound myself.

[charlie]

Fakir shortening all over the shop. 15/2 from 12 with B365. I do think Melon @ 25/1 is very decent with B365 as he is mostly 10-14 elsewhere.

Early days and not one for sweeping statements early but the Arkle is going back to Ireland isn't it.

[Kevloaf]

will leave tornado till his next entry.

Next entry is supposed to be the Racing Post Novice Chase at Christmas...

Post #673 if you missed it.... I know charlie is a fan of the post

http://www.fatjockey.com/forum/showthread.php?15384-Arkle-2020&p=122272&viewfull=1#post122272

[Kevloaf]

1. Laurina, 2. Tornado Flyer, 3. Fakir, 4. Notebook


Fakir would be higher up the list if I wasn't concerned he'd be going up in trip. I think he'll be aimed at Arkle until proven not good enough though.






Way too early to be predicting a 1-2-3 but the above are all backed....and it's only fun