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  • Originally posted by quevega View Post
    It amazes me why anyone is still surprised Melon keeps losing.
    Still no grade one win.
    But will more than likely run a good race at a price at the festival.
    Not sure where though.
    Hopefully in the JLT, so that bet you got me into, gets me a run for my money
    Spot on. He always seems to get beat by one & finds one too good at the highest level. He’s a bit like My Tent Or Yours in that vein always being the bridesmaid, although Trent won plenty of races outside the Festival. Same will happen again here with Melon IMO - he’s probably nailed for a place in JLT but something will come out and beat him..

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    • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
      Is Tornado Flyer not a wild price for this now at 33/1 with 365??
      (and actually 50/1 for the JLT)?

      Being aimed at the Racing Post Novice Chase at Leopardstown...

      Mullins runners in the last 8 years for that race have been:

      2018 - Voix Du Reve 3rd - F in JLT
      2017 - Footpad 1st - 1st in Arkle
      2016 - Min 1st - Injured (was going to run in the Arkle)
      2015 - Douvan 1st - 1st in Arkle
      2014 - Vautour 3rd - 1st in JLT
      2013 - Champagne Fever 3rd - *** in Arkle
      2012 - Arvika Ligeonniere 1st - PU in Arkle
      2011 - Blackstairmountain 1st - 5th in Arkle

      I know he wasn't that impressive, but he still won on Chase debut.... keeps saying about the pace he has..... and as I keep saying, he's Willie's highest ever rated bumper horse.....

      Must have some talent to get involved and that's a big price surely?
      What an excellent post, you convinced me to part with cash. An unexposed winning Mullins chase debutante who's next stop is a grade 1 at Leopardstown in a race Willie aims good things at...... 33/1 & 50/1 with the added benefit of cash out - definition of a no brainer to me
      Last edited by charlie; 15 November 2019, 09:21 AM.

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      • Nice enough performance from Brewin' and can only see him going for this race myself... especially as TD look more likely to benefit from the step up in trip.

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        • Have added Notebook - 50/1 for this before tomorrow.

          Fairly decent race tomorrow where he re-opposes EdB along with Moon Over Germany and the well thought of Mount Pelier.
          I'd be slightly worried about the ground for him which could allow EdB to reverse the form (when otherwise i'd be hard pressed to see a reason why). Think he's better on less testing ground.

          The Craddockstown Novice Chase is clearly a race Henry de Bromhead likes for his 2 mile novice chasers. Identity Thief, Sizing John and going back further Sizing Europe all won the race before going onto the 2 Irish Arkle trials at Christmas / and the now labelled Dublin Racing Festival. (and IT was lined up all season for the Arkle until never recovering from the defat by Min at Christmas)

          At this stage the Irish Trials might not take too much winning. Fakir Doudairies could well mop them up but if Notebook is able to win tomorrow, he'll almost certainly go onto those races and would deserve to be there before a likely Arkle run in March.

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          • Originally posted by jono View Post
            Have added Notebook - 50/1 for this before tomorrow.

            Fairly decent race tomorrow where he re-opposes EdB along with Moon Over Germany and the well thought of Mount Pelier.
            I'd be slightly worried about the ground for him which could allow EdB to reverse the form (when otherwise i'd be hard pressed to see a reason why). Think he's better on less testing ground.

            The Craddockstown Novice Chase is clearly a race Henry de Bromhead likes for his 2 mile novice chasers. Identity Thief, Sizing John and going back further Sizing Europe all won the race before going onto the 2 Irish Arkle trials at Christmas / and the now labelled Dublin Racing Festival. (and IT was lined up all season for the Arkle until never recovering from the defat by Min at Christmas)

            At this stage the Irish Trials might not take too much winning. Fakir Doudairies could well mop them up but if Notebook is able to win tomorrow, he'll almost certainly go onto those races and would deserve to be there before a likely Arkle run in March.
            that helped remind me to add this horse again, but each way this time.
            think i might cash if it don't win tomorrow though.

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            • Anyone know what the crack is with Draconien? Mullins said he was out for the season in his stable tour but Ruby gave a positive mention to him a couple of days after that. Couldn’t find any further clarity since but he’d be one i’d like to keep on side if there was any chance he’d make it back for March

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              • Originally posted by AnFiieLD. View Post
                Anyone know what the crack is with Draconien? Mullins said he was out for the season in his stable tour but Ruby gave a positive mention to him a couple of days after that. Couldn’t find any further clarity since but he’d be one i’d like to keep on side if there was any chance he’d make it back for March
                A guess but Ruby probably wasn't fully in the know + was commenting off the cuff. Not certain of course but he's done it a few times already this year.

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                • Originally posted by jono View Post
                  Have added Notebook - 50/1 for this before tomorrow.

                  Fairly decent race tomorrow where he re-opposes EdB along with Moon Over Germany and the well thought of Mount Pelier.
                  I'd be slightly worried about the ground for him which could allow EdB to reverse the form (when otherwise i'd be hard pressed to see a reason why). Think he's better on less testing ground.

                  The Craddockstown Novice Chase is clearly a race Henry de Bromhead likes for his 2 mile novice chasers. Identity Thief, Sizing John and going back further Sizing Europe all won the race before going onto the 2 Irish Arkle trials at Christmas / and the now labelled Dublin Racing Festival. (and IT was lined up all season for the Arkle until never recovering from the defat by Min at Christmas)

                  At this stage the Irish Trials might not take too much winning. Fakir Doudairies could well mop them up but if Notebook is able to win tomorrow, he'll almost certainly go onto those races and would deserve to be there before a likely Arkle run in March.
                  Very decent price Jono, would obviously expect he won't be good enough, but then again i'm look at Mount Pelier who probably isn't either!

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                  • I have the feeling that eclair de beaufeu will turn around the form tomorrow, but I havent the balls to take the 50s without cashout.
                    Whether that form would be good enough to win the arkle, I doubt. But its tempting to chase the price and hope for the best.
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                    • Agree with you on ECLAIR BEAUFEU Scooby. Gordy entered him in at least two winter Cheltenham Handicap hurdles to get a UK hurdles mark for a Festival plan. He was probably ridden too forward for the race in the County Hurdle leading into the straight until caught up the hill at the last flight and UR.

                      Only a 5yo, he has performed even better over fences and I fancy him to go close if not win today.

                      Cant find a place in the Fez at the moment as I'm not sure he is an Arkle winner, though it's not always a race won by obvious horses, let alone those obvious in November.

                      If he wins this Grade 2 well then we know he is good enough for an Arkle run. If not then maybe a good quality handicap.
                      "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                      • Notebook - a prime example of how jumping well can make a big difference.
                        best natural jumper we've seen so far.

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                        • Originally posted by quevega View Post
                          Notebook - a prime example of how jumping well can make a big difference.
                          best natural jumper we've seen so far.
                          Well done. I thought eclair de beaufeu was travelling all over him at one point, but he did the business well in the end.
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                          • Originally posted by quevega View Post
                            Notebook - a prime example of how jumping well can make a big difference.
                            best natural jumper we've seen so far.
                            Agreed. Very happy with that performance.

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                            • Originally posted by jono View Post
                              Agreed. Very happy with that performance.
                              Looks like he really likes it (jumping fences that is)
                              thought he was good on debut, and jumped well again nearly all the way round today.
                              seems to not take much out of him, which allows him to have energy left.
                              probably not naturally fast enough, but he's a player at minute

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                              • QUOTES: NOTEBOOK looked impressive here last time and it's nice to see him back it up. His jumping was great. The ground was a concern but he was electric and he is really exciting. His jumping is so quick and flamboyant that he'll stick to 2 miles - Henry De Bromhead, trainer.

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