If this is your first visit, be sure to
check out the FAQ by clicking the
link above. You may have to register
before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages,
select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.
We're looking to upgrade the 'hosting CPU' so I've set up a crowdfunding project.
I would love it if you could donate using the link below to access my project page. Any contribution large or small will be hugely appreciated. Thank you.
Kevloaf @ Fat Jockey
2 of 2<>
Fat Jockey Patrons
HELP US - Become a Patron - Fat Jockey is a horse racing community focused on all the big races in the UK and Ireland. We don't charge users but if you have found the site useful then any support towards the running costs is appreciated ... a small donation each month would be a huge contribution. Become a Patron!
I found it interesting Paul Nicholls (in his stable tour on YouTube uploaded yesterday) confirmed triumph but didn’t fully rule out Solo running in champion hurdle, probably would have been filmed before Honeysuckle confirmed for the mares, he’s rated 157 and PN said he gets an 8lb allowance so I have requested Billy Hill to add to the market and will back NRNB if added so no risk, all reward
How do you know there best trip is 2m4f?
Benie Des Dieux's best form is 3m isn't it?
If Honeysuckle went CH, and Benie went Stayers - would you be gutted?
Seeing Benie Clash with Paisley Park?!
NOW THAT IS A CLASH.
I genuinly don't care who is the best Mare at 2m4f. I don't see how anyone can really?
When we find out which of them is best, what happens then? we just roll over and say "well done, no point you ever testing yourself at 2m or 3m, or against the boys"
Also, if Benie and Honeysuckle didn't run, is Roskana (last years winner) versus Stormy Ireland not a decent clash? That's surely what the point of the Mares programme is, so we get clashes for horses that aren't CHAMPIONSHIP horses to have somewhere to run.
Benie versus Honeysuckle is BETTER than BDD having a walkover, absolutely..... my point is they shouldn't have that choice. I'm not arguing about the decision that's been made, I'm arguing they shouldn't be able to make it!
You can havem this "clash" at anywhere else, after Cheltenham.... but nobody would build it up as much really!
But the reason they have made the decision to run in the mares is because of the trip, not because of the race. IF the CH and the Mares hurdle was the same trip, then they would obviously run in the CH. However this is not the case, so they decided that 2m4 is the optimum trip and gives them the best chance of a win so they are doing what they believe is best for their horse.
I would also much prefer to see the mares against each other at 2m4 than BDD stepping up in trip against PP, Even though it would be a great race.
Edit - i know BDD can step up in trip, i just mean from the race in discussion.
Last edited by Super Raven; 4 March 2020, 08:26 AM.
Reason: add
I found it interesting Paul Nicholls (in his stable tour on YouTube uploaded yesterday) confirmed triumph but didn’t fully rule out Solo running in champion hurdle, probably would have been filmed before Honeysuckle confirmed for the mares, he’s rated 157 and PN said he gets an 8lb allowance so I have requested Billy Hill to add to the market and will back NRNB if added so no risk, all reward
Billy aren't NRNB yet though, are they? Be careful with that plan.
Looks like Solo is 6's NRNB with PP / BFSB. Which is fine that you believe that rating of 157 is right AND inexperience won't count against him - personally I think it's 7lb too high.
I was at Ditcheat Sunday, from what they were saying he isnt going anywhere apart from the Triumph. Interestingly they said that if he won they might not geld him, but obviously will need to win.
Billy aren't NRNB yet though, are they? Be careful with that plan.
Looks like Solo is 6's NRNB with PP / BFSB. Which is fine that you believe that rating of 157 is right AND inexperience won't count against him - personally I think it's 7lb too high.
He gets 8lb according to PN so you have to factor that in, not saying he’ll win but just trying to get the best NRNB price and get ahead of the game
He gets 8lb according to PN so you have to factor that in, not saying he’ll win but just trying to get the best NRNB price and get ahead of the game
Fair enough - all about opinions. That 8lb is 'just' the weight for age scale so it's not really an 'extra' benefit more a levelling the playing field. I can't see it myself, but then I'm wrong more often than I'm right else I'd be retired somewhere by now!
My point was more that William Hill AREN'T NRNB yet so didn't want you to fall into something antepost that you thought was NRNB.
I found it interesting Paul Nicholls (in his stable tour on YouTube uploaded yesterday) confirmed triumph but didn’t fully rule out Solo running in champion hurdle, probably would have been filmed before Honeysuckle confirmed for the mares, he’s rated 157 and PN said he gets an 8lb allowance so I have requested Billy Hill to add to the market and will back NRNB if added so no risk, all reward
Not having a dig here Eagle but that has to take the prize for the worst price in Cheltenham history
Paddy Power have Solo at 6/1 for the champion hurdle, what is going on?! Who is backing it to be that short for the champion hurdle.
I loved his debut but a juvenile is shorter in the betting than proven grade 1 performers, his rating is far too high in comparison to other juveniles and we know getting their ratings is tough but it’s too high.
We only just had a 5yo winner of this race which broke a few trends but surely 4yo’s is non existent in trends for even running?
He has no chance in this race imo and I wouldn’t bother tying up money when he isn’t likely to run anyway.
Not having a dig here Eagle but that has to take the prize for the worst price in Cheltenham history
Paddy Power have Solo at 6/1 for the champion hurdle, what is going on?! Who is backing it to be that short for the champion hurdle.
I loved his debut but a juvenile is shorter in the betting than proven grade 1 performers, his rating is far too high in comparison to other juveniles and we know getting their ratings is tough but it’s too high.
We only just had a 5yo winner of this race which broke a few trends but surely 4yo’s is non existent in trends for even running?
He has no chance in this race imo and I wouldn’t bother tying up money when he isn’t likely to run anyway.
No offence taken bud as I didn’t set the price
As I said probably won’t win but I found it interesting that PN had said that.
We process personal data about users of our site, through the use of cookies and other technologies, to deliver our services, personalize advertising, and to analyze site activity. We may share certain information about our users with our advertising and analytics partners. For additional details, refer to our Privacy Policy.
By clicking "I AGREE" below, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our personal data processing and cookie practices as described therein. You also acknowledge that this forum may be hosted outside your country and you consent to the collection, storage, and processing of your data in the country where this forum is hosted.
Tweet
Comment