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  • Taking the 8s without insurance to greedy? Anything to suggest he wont make it? Any word if coming along nicely?

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    • Originally posted by Kautothegreat8 View Post
      Benie never ran in a 2 mile hurdle race in her life ..... can’t see it myself
      She has, and I don't think it makes any difference had she not. Her class and ability is obvious.
      It all hinges on the fitness of Saldier. whilst he is fit and well and willie is confident in him, then benie is not running here and Willie can easily dissuade Ricci (who, as the owner has more say then some people think).

      The Vautour switch was quite obviously a Ruby riding thing, and them telling Ricci they though Djackadam was a good thing.
      One report of an average workout for Vautour and he was persuaded.

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      • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
        She has, and I don't think it makes any difference had she not. Her class and ability is obvious.
        It all hinges on the fitness of Saldier. whilst he is fit and well and willie is confident in him, then benie is not running here and Willie can easily dissuade Ricci (who, as the owner has more say then some people think).

        The Vautour switch was quite obviously a Ruby riding thing, and them telling Ricci they though Djackadam was a good thing.
        One report of an average workout for Vautour and he was persuaded.
        Agree with this - it's more likely she's on hold for the Champion Hurdle if their other options (Saldier etc) aren't looking fit or up to standard. Never know with Mullins et al though - they're killer for ante post

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        • Willie Mullins goes for the race they have the best chance of winning. That's just how he operates. The most winnable race for BDD is almost certainly the Mares race (with or without Honeysuckle) followed by the stayers followed by the Champion Hurdle. If RR hadn't said what he said the other day then this wouldn't even be a talking point as BDD has no hurdle form over two miles and placing her there would require WPM to abandon a lifetime habit of going for the most winnable race. Just an opinion but all noise and no substance for me.

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          • Originally posted by charlie View Post
            Willie Mullins goes for the race they have the best chance of winning. That's just how he operates. The most winnable race for BDD is almost certainly the Mares race (with or without Honeysuckle) followed by the stayers followed by the Champion Hurdle. If RR hadn't said what he said the other day then this wouldn't even be a talking point as BDD has no hurdle form over two miles and placing her there would require WPM to abandon a lifetime habit of going for the most winnable race. Just an opinion but all noise and no substance for me.
            This 100%. Ricci is the owner but he's all hot air.

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            • Originally posted by charlie View Post
              Willie Mullins goes for the race they have the best chance of winning. That's just how he operates. The most winnable race for BDD is almost certainly the Mares race (with or without Honeysuckle) followed by the stayers followed by the Champion Hurdle. If RR hadn't said what he said the other day then this wouldn't even be a talking point as BDD has no hurdle form over two miles and placing her there would require WPM to abandon a lifetime habit of going for the most winnable race. Just an opinion but all noise and no substance for me.
              100%.

              Would this go for Honeysuckle though? I don't remember the owners or de Bromhead putting Honeysuckle up for the Champion Hurdle until it was a firm talking point in the media?

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              • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                100%.

                Would this go for Honeysuckle though? I don't remember the owners or de Bromhead putting Honeysuckle up for the Champion Hurdle until it was a firm talking point in the media?
                I wasn't overly impressed with Honeysuckle. If she had pissed up, impressed us all and jumped like a Champion Hurdler then I think the more winnable race (with BDD in the Mares) could arguably be a tilt at the Champion Hurdle cause it lacks depth and BDD looks mustard. As she didn't really impress, connections have to believe she is much better over 2m5f which is effectively what they have said by announcing Mares, so even with BDD in the race, I still think the mares (and not this) is her best chance of winning, so same as BDD.

                Re this race, the EW value is currently Supasundae at 33's.

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                • Absolutely scenes when Willie gets Klassical Dream tuned up for the day and we all go rummaging through the bin for our slips from August

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                  • Originally posted by robith View Post
                    Absolutely scenes when Willie gets Klassical Dream tuned up for the day and we all go rummaging through the bin for our slips from August
                    Ha! We can only dream

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                    • Originally posted by robith View Post
                      Absolutely scenes when Willie gets Klassical Dream tuned up for the day and we all go rummaging through the bin for our slips from August
                      If it turned up soft on the first day he wouldn’t be far off favourite (providing he is 100% fit, did we ever hear how he is after being pulled out at Dublin? Imho

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                      • Originally posted by charlie View Post
                        I wasn't overly impressed with Honeysuckle. If she had pissed up, impressed us all and jumped like a Champion Hurdler then I think the more winnable race (with BDD in the Mares) could arguably be a tilt at the Champion Hurdle cause it lacks depth and BDD looks mustard. As she didn't really impress, connections have to believe she is much better over 2m5f which is effectively what they have said by announcing Mares, so even with BDD in the race, I still think the mares (and not this) is her best chance of winning, so same as BDD.

                        Re this race, the EW value is currently Supasundae at 33's.
                        Totally agree with that Charlie. Still has a great chance of beating BDD if she runs to her best IMO.

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                        • Originally posted by robith View Post
                          Absolutely scenes when Willie gets Klassical Dream tuned up for the day and we all go rummaging through the bin for our slips from August
                          Would be incredible scenes!

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                          • Originally posted by charlie View Post

                            Re this race, the EW value is currently Supasundae at 33's.
                            Don't see it myself, would want 4 or 5 places which is why I was interested in the 11/2 to finish top 4, but not now it's into 3's.

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                            • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                              Don't see it myself, would want 4 or 5 places which is why I was interested in the 11/2 to finish top 4, but not now it's into 3's.
                              Each to their own. I think he's a very solid EW play in such a weak looking race. If Mick Jazz and Silver Streak can place in a CH then so can Supasundae! . Solid graded form, clearly still running very well, puppy up top, decent course form, some decent spring ground and JH expecting him to come on big time for the run. Loads in his favor

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                              • Originally posted by charlie View Post
                                Each to their own. I think he's a very solid EW play in such a weak looking race. If Mick Jazz and Silver Streak can place in a CH then so can Supasundae! . Solid graded form, clearly still running very well, puppy up top, decent course form, some decent spring ground and JH expecting him to come on big time for the run. Loads in his favor
                                When you put it like that.....

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