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Champion Hurdle 2020

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  • In fact it would be massive deja vu.
    Falling at last in mares, then stopping in shed all year and winning champion hurdle after a prep run at punchestown in mid february.
    They must have talked this over at breakfast at least once.

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    • They also have Stormy Ireland for the mares who impressed over Christmas.

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      • And even Laurina for the mares if she were to make it to Chelt....

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        • adorns my wall as of Christmas day this year.
          All 4ft by 3ft.

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          • I’ve asked William Hill to add her to their market, surely they at least discuss it

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            • You lot are mental. Benie is no Annie Power ! I can see her stepping up to Stayers but Churdle......no.

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              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                You lot are mental. Benie is no Annie Power ! I can see her stepping up to Stayers but Churdle......no.
                You've no idea if you think that

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                • Originally posted by quevega View Post
                  https://images.app.goo.gl/5g4xRDX3yoxX2Wps5

                  adorns my wall as of Christmas day this year.
                  All 4ft by 3ft.
                  Very nice!

                  Looks like I agree with Lobos

                  I don't think Benie Des Dieux is fast enough to win a Champion Hurdle myself, and I don't think she'll run because I don't feel like 'they' think she'd as good as Annie Power was.


                  I'd have thought Vroum Vroum Mag wasn't fast enough to win a Champion Hurdle though too, and she won a 2m G1 too in open company.


                  AP > BDD > VVM

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                  • She's definitely fast enough.
                    But we'll probably not find out.
                    People said the same about Annie Power.
                    And some fairly good judges thought Apple's Jade couldn't either.

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                    • Not an exact science but from jumping the third last to jumping the last at Cheltenham this year.

                      Benie did it in about 43 seconds, Espoir D'allen 45 seconds. Give or take half a second.

                      Slightly different trips and different pace early on, but I think it shows she can cruise with the best of them, and she was cruising.

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                      • Originally posted by quevega View Post
                        Not an exact science but from jumping the third last to jumping the last at Cheltenham this year.

                        Benie did it in about 43 seconds, Espoir D'allen 45 seconds. Give or take half a second.

                        Slightly different trips and different pace early on, but I think it shows she can cruise with the best of them, and she was cruising.
                        Have a Pie with me Q and
                        Lobos can have a Loaf with Kev

                        Leave Benie alone

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                        • Originally posted by quevega View Post
                          Not an exact science but from jumping the third last to jumping the last at Cheltenham this year.

                          Benie did it in about 43 seconds, Espoir D'allen 45 seconds. Give or take half a second.

                          Slightly different trips and different pace early on, but I think it shows she can cruise with the best of them, and she was cruising.
                          Yeah fair enough.

                          Me saying "I don't think she's fast enough to win a CH" doesn't even make sense. Of course she could be, what I meant was, she'd be more of a staying type than a speed type.

                          I feel like people forget her win in the race... In touch, in last pair 6th, headway 3 out, driven to chase leading trio after 2 out, went 3rd at the last, drifted left when challenging run-in, led final 120yds, stayed on, driven right out (op 4/1)



                          A lot of "driven" for a horse blessed with more speed than stamina.


                          Doesn't stop her doing anything, but I've always felt she leans towards stamina over speed because of her festival win.

                          Her cruising and falling at the last doesn't change my opinion too much

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                          • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                            Yeah fair enough.

                            Me saying "I don't think she's fast enough to win a CH" doesn't even make sense. Of course she could be, what I meant was, she'd be more of a staying type than a speed type.

                            I feel like people forget her win in the race... In touch, in last pair 6th, headway 3 out, driven to chase leading trio after 2 out, went 3rd at the last, drifted left when challenging run-in, led final 120yds, stayed on, driven right out (op 4/1)



                            A lot of "driven" for a horse blessed with more speed than stamina.


                            Doesn't stop her doing anything, but I've always felt she leans towards stamina over speed because of her festival win.

                            Her cruising and falling at the last doesn't change my opinion too much
                            It would depend on the pace and ground etc,

                            and I agree that her first mares hurdle was a thorough staying performance on heavy ground, but she possibly was not quite at her best that season and her runs since have been a lot more "travelley"

                            If you get what I mean.

                            I think she's shown both traits now.
                            Class is class. The good ones can do both.

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                            • Originally posted by quevega View Post
                              It would depend on the pace and ground etc,

                              and I agree that her first mares hurdle was a thorough staying performance on heavy ground, but she possibly was not quite at her best that season and her runs since have been a lot more "travelley"

                              If you get what I mean.

                              I think she's shown both traits now.
                              Class is class. The good ones can do both.
                              She's 12/1 NRNB with Fred?

                              Yeah, I get you.

                              She'd be loads shorter if she ran wouldn't she?

                              I bet you back it... then I will.

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                              • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                                She's 12/1 NRNB with Fred?

                                Yeah, I get you.

                                She'd be loads shorter if she ran wouldn't she?

                                I bet you back it... then I will.
                                I've got her already at 100+ from a few weeks back on the Bex

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