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I wouldn't really say NRNB negates the idea of him not turning up. I don't think 16/1 prices in the horse lining up and the odds compilers might be asleep behind the wheel with this one. If confirmed by Olly (which in this poor renewal has to be in the back of his mind) he would probably contract to around 9/1. So if confirmed you could lay him off for a free bet. If he doesn't run... well then you get your money back.
You're right he might not be good enough, however he's relatively unexposed over hurdles and is only rated 1lb below the favourite. Watched that Supreme back a few times now and can't help but think a furiously run Champion Hurdle would play into his strengths, gutsy horse; the horse was reported to be lame after the race but still ran a blinder. 16/1 just strikes me as massive with a run
NRNB negates the negative (risk) attached with him not turning up. The trainer has already said they might wait till Aintree so taking anything other than NRNB would be ill advised at this stage in time.
TD might have a chance and he might be good enough, but it's a wide open race where the same could be said for most the field. Have to start drawing lines through the ones you don't like, especially in a race this open. Doesn't do it for me
I wouldn't really say NRNB negates the idea of him not turning up. I don't think 16/1 prices in the horse lining up and the odds compilers might be asleep behind the wheel with this one. If confirmed by Olly (which in this poor renewal has to be in the back of his mind) he would probably contract to around 9/1. So if confirmed you could lay him off for a free bet. If he doesn't run... well then you get your money back.
You're right he might not be good enough, however he's relatively unexposed over hurdles and is only rated 1lb below the favourite. Watched that Supreme back a few times now and can't help but think a furiously run Champion Hurdle would play into his strengths, gutsy horse; the horse was reported to be lame after the race but still ran a blinder. 16/1 just strikes me as massive with a run
I was all over Thomas Darby for the Supreme last year, put in a good performance, never been out of the first 3 in all starts and rates on paper as a solid e/w candidate in a wide open renewal. I've not touched him for this & probably won't until the day if the prices goes out (i.e. 33/1). You've got to bear in mind that if any of Honeysuckle/Benie/Cilaos Emery/Envoi Allen/Stormy Ireland/Melon are confirmed/supplemented for this then they'll probably all be ahead of him in the betting, can't see him being 9/1... there may be further value in him waiting until the day IMO.
I was all over Thomas Darby for the Supreme last year, put in a good performance, never been out of the first 3 in all starts and rates on paper as a solid e/w candidate in a wide open renewal. I've not touched him for this & probably won't until the day if the prices goes out (i.e. 33/1). You've got to bear in mind that if any of Honeysuckle/Benie/Cilaos Emery/Envoi Allen/Stormy Ireland/Melon are confirmed/supplemented for this then they'll probably all be ahead of him in the betting, can't see him being 9/1... there may be further value in him waiting until the day IMO.
I'd concur with this.
9-1 would be a big surprise, and he should be running in the stayers.
I wouldn't really say NRNB negates the idea of him not turning up. I don't think 16/1 prices in the horse lining up and the odds compilers might be asleep behind the wheel with this one. If confirmed by Olly (which in this poor renewal has to be in the back of his mind) he would probably contract to around 9/1. So if confirmed you could lay him off for a free bet. If he doesn't run... well then you get your money back.
You're right he might not be good enough, however he's relatively unexposed over hurdles and is only rated 1lb below the favourite. Watched that Supreme back a few times now and can't help but think a furiously run Champion Hurdle would play into his strengths, gutsy horse; the horse was reported to be lame after the race but still ran a blinder. 16/1 just strikes me as massive with a run
I know it's been said above, but 9/1? I can't imagine that when confirmed at all.
Still happy enough with my Darver Star bet, not expecting him to necessarily win but i'm on at 50s. Also don't expect him to get much shorter than he is now. Wide open renewal + Cromwell is good man to have onside.
Sporting Life Daryl Jacob column, he stated that the ground is much too soft, similar to when he disappointed in the Christmas Hurdle.
So common sense prevails and he will be freshened up and go straight to Cheltenham looking for ground better than soft.
Would like a racecourse gallop between now and then.
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Sporting Life Daryl Jacob column, ground is much too soft, similar to when he disappointed in the Christmas Hurdle.
So common sense prevails and he will be freshened up and go straight to Cheltenham looking for ground better than soft.
Would like a racecourse gallop between now and then.
16/1 short enough based on beating Grand Sancy less than a length, Pulling Up then missing an intended target?
Couldn't part with cash myself on him at this stage.
i see a lot of discussion around Supasundae placing as good value, surely the 20/1 (sky bet) about for Ballyandy is good each way value? i will be doing a place bet each day and at the moment i will be keen on BA in this.
Supasundae will improve a whole lot from his 1st race back, as always. Would have to be very pleased with that for a seasonal debut. He'll also improve for the stiffer test of stamina. His previous form is good enough to go close here.
Ballyandy may steal a 3rd you never know. But he has shown what he has. And it isn't good enough.
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Would be a huge slap in the face of Sharjah fans, like me.
Yes it is but 1. Why is he entered in the Red Mills hurdle and not the chase an hour later at the weekend if they're serious about the Champion Chase/Ryanair? 2. Why are Paddys now the shortest priced on him for the Champion Hurdle after saying they wouldn't add to market until confirmed supplemented & were 14s a day before? Perhaps I'm overthinking that...
Yes it would be a slap in our face being on a horse long touted as one of the best Switch Switchy owns but the fact is there have been several outings this season where he's under performed & the ground shouldn't have been an issue.
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