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  • Originally posted by somer1 View Post
    Any news on where Honeysuckle goes next?
    'We'll discuss it, and make a decision' was the last I read.

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    • Absolutely loved the way she was was headed after the mistake at the last and battled back to win on the rail when the space wasnt getting any wider. Think she can be marked up significantly for that, reminded me of what Klassical Dream did last year, would be such a shame if she didnt go to the Champion hurdle, and coz ive layed her for the mares .... lol

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      • Henry’s mare surely goes here now, owners pre race vibes suggested should she win today they had to take there chance!

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        • Originally posted by jono View Post
          More questions than answers for me after that race.
          She won, showed plenty of guts but wouldn't scream a CH horse
          Same for me Jono., not convinced she'll enjoy the finish up the Hill at cheltenham,.

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          • Originally posted by BigChaang View Post
            Same for me Jono., not convinced she'll enjoy the finish up the Hill at cheltenham,.
            Darver Star will enjoy the hill and I think is worth a small EW interest at 66/1 with Betfred considering the largest you can get on Honeysuckle is 6.

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            • Originally posted by BigChaang View Post
              Same for me Jono., not convinced she'll enjoy the finish up the Hill at cheltenham,.
              Agree. Didn’t scream CH to me.

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              • Be really useful, if someone could come out with sectionals for yesterday's race, I'll watch out on timeform.
                It looked like they went steady then really started racing early from at least half a mile out, and the finish was slow because of that.
                It would explain darver star's staying on performance as I reckon he may have ran the most economical race.

                Sharjah may not have been at his best, but I've doubted his ability to go a real strong gallop, and then kick off it.
                That's simply because you have to be really really good to go championship pace and then pick off your opponents on the run in. And I don't think he is. So he may well have benefitted from slightly steadier/weaker grade one races.
                Wouldn't totally write him off.
                And the ground thing with him is still bullshit IMO.

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                • Originally posted by Hardy Eustace View Post
                  Agree. Didn’t scream CH to me.
                  In a normal year i would agree but its not been a normal year. Thinks its down to the two mares to fight out the finish now.

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                  • Anyone any news or updates on Coeur Sublime? Just realised Had a free bet a while ago. The were rumours of wind op, but not heard anything else

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                    • Originally posted by quevega View Post
                      Be really useful, if someone could come out with sectionals for yesterday's race, I'll watch out on timeform.
                      It looked like they went steady then really started racing early from at least half a mile out, and the finish was slow because of that.
                      It would explain darver star's staying on performance as I reckon he may have ran the most economical race.

                      Sharjah may not have been at his best, but I've doubted his ability to go a real strong gallop, and then kick off it.
                      That's simply because you have to be really really good to go championship pace and then pick off your opponents on the run in. And I don't think he is. So he may well have benefitted from slightly steadier/weaker grade one races.
                      Wouldn't totally write him off.
                      And the ground thing with him is still bullshit IMO.
                      she ran efficiently https://twitter.com/jumpspacemaps/st...683264/photo/1

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                      • Originally posted by germanshepherd View Post
                        Not seen this analysis before, what do the numbers mean ?
                        And it's only on the winners so you'd want to see how the others in the same races ran also.

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                        • are the numbers in relation to par.
                          as in -9 is a quick finish ?
                          and +5 is a slow finish ?

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                          • Originally posted by germanshepherd View Post
                            i've seen those pacemaps. There's so many flaws to that idea. At best it can identify which horse has a turn of foot in a tactical battle

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                            • Originally posted by TC2 View Post
                              i've seen those pacemaps. There's so many flaws to that idea. At best it can identify which horse has a turn of foot in a tactical battle
                              Yep I prefer timeform guy as I'm more familiar with it, and he will cover all the runners in the specific race and this provides more context.

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                              • Originally posted by quevega View Post
                                Yep I prefer timeform guy as I'm more familiar with it, and he will cover all the runners in the specific race and this provides more context.
                                I've got the race as being pretty quick. The form of it will be crabbed because there was three close up in a finish, and probably rating it through Petit Mouchoir (who looks back to his best) Need to watch it back, as I thought Darvers Star was the one to take from it.

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