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As mentioned on other thread today
Altior 5-1 for cc is excellent value.
Can’t remember if he’s been placed in previous yankees, so ignore if he has
He hasn’t because he was initially 5/2 and 3/1, the push to 5/1 makes him enormous value for me as like most I can only see him heading to the Champion Chase for a place in the history books...
I don't think anything is excellent value at 5/1 in July....
Then again, we'vr had Chacun Pour Soi and Klassical Dream at single figure odds - so relative to those, it's a very generous price.
It is excellent value (very generous) though, isn't it ?
Backed it today.
Not many arguments to put up against him being odds against should he turn up on the day.
The fact WH are pricing up Chacun Pour Soi the same 5/1 as Altior is absolutely mental really isn't it. The 7/1 best price CpS against Altior is no better.
Not one I'll back yet however personally I'd take 1pt hit and the 4/1 Altior with b365 (if you can) over the WH price just for cash out. You won't be able to touch cashout come KG time but for risk of injury...
It is excellent value (very generous) though, isn't it ?
Backed it today.
Not many arguments to put up against him being odds against should he turn up on the day.
Too many 'ifs'
IF he wins a King George, target isn't certain
IF he gets beaten in a King George, is he still the horse he was
IF he wins over 2 miles this year (again, does he retain ability)
IF nothing improves past him, Chacun Pour Soi
IF he turns up on the day
5/1?
You can find a better 5/1 shot today?
The 7/1 for Chacun Pour Soi would look good IF Altior didn't run
IF he wins a King George, target isn't certain
IF he gets beaten in a King George, is he still the horse he was
IF he wins over 2 miles this year (again, does he retain ability)
IF nothing improves past him, Chacun Pour Soi
IF he turns up on the day
5/1?
You can find a better 5/1 shot today?
The 7/1 for Chacun Pour Soi would look good IF Altior didn't run
If you're worried about If's then you definitely shouldn't be backing antepost, or at all for that matter.
Altior is a multiple festival winner who has not been beaten.
Most living legends are usually much shorter than 5-1.
5-1 is value and there are far less if's than most of the other antepost bets out there, especially the april and may forum yankees.
Won't take much for windy miller henderson to revert to type either.
There are three potential dangers as we know it. They're all Irish so will probably get whittled down to one main danger as they will likely meet each other before the festival, unless injuries crop up as they might.
There is definitely no better antepost bet at 5-1 available today.
If you're worried about If's then you definitely shouldn't be backing antepost, or at all for that matter.
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I agreed until the comma.
I'm not taking 5/1 now in a single for any horse, living legend or not when I know perfectly well they're aiming him at a 3 mile chase at Christmas.
You shouldn't be betting at all if you can't find a better way to spend your money than a 5/1 shot in March, when its the 30th July.
Joking aside, how many "pts" are you putting down to make 5/1 worthwhile right now in a single?
If it was absolutely certain he'd run in the Champion Chase, I can see it - but we have it catogorically stated he's being aimed at a 3 mile chase, and that is enough of a doubt that you could wait before lumping on at 5/1
Hazel Hill at 10/1 is a better bet off the top of my head
I'm not taking 5/1 now in a single for any horse, living legend or not when I know perfectly well they're aiming him at a 3 mile chase at Christmas.
You shouldn't be betting at all if you can't find a better way to spend your money than a 5/1 shot in March, when its the 30th July.
Joking aside, how many "pts" are you putting down to make 5/1 worthwhile right now in a single?
If it was absolutely certain he'd run in the Champion Chase, I can see it - but we have it catogorically stated he's being aimed at a 3 mile chase, and that is enough of a doubt that you could wait before lumping on at 5/1
Hazel Hill at 10/1 is a better bet off the top of my head
he wouldn't be 5-1 if it was a certain target.
I think it may turn out that the price is bigger at some stage in the season for one reason or another, but there's a decent chance it goes the other way also. Think the same could be said of hazel hill, although less likely to drop in price I'd imagine.
It's the best bet in the world compared to 6-1 Kemboy for the Gold cup.:highly_amused
Reminds me of the idiots who never back odds on.
Value is value. No matter what month it is.
simple as that.
Bet for you...
35/1 for Cyrname King George / Altior QMCC double.
I know you're against Altior in the KG, so when he's defeated and they revert to the 2 mile race.... you can have 35/1?
Value is value - nobody will argue that.
It definitely matters what month it is..... if it was March 2020 and Altior was 5/1, that's better value than it is in July 2019. So it does matter what month it is.
I think you said yourself earlier you think Altior might be a bigger price at some point... which I won't go back and quote, but does lend itself to timings being more important than you're saying now too?
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