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Triumph Hurdle 2020

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  • Monte Cristo is Double greens best juvenile this season and the rest are no great shakes apparently.

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    • QUOTES: Allmankind is a bit one dimensional as you cannot ride him any other way and when he first came to the yard I did not think he had the edge for jumping but he loves it. I suppose something like the Victor Ludorum at Haydock or a trip to Leopardstown for a Grade 1 hurdle might be on the cards for him next -Dan Skelton, trainer.

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      • Originally posted by Redbridge View Post
        Monte Cristo is Double greens best juvenile this season and the rest are no great shakes apparently.
        Listening to mark Howard's ppv I assume. Not gone well so far. The bumper horse that took there eyes out was well beaten. And lamarckise is fine, when he put her along side gypsy island as crocked.
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        • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
          Listening to mark Howard's ppv I assume. Not gone well so far. The bumper horse that took there eyes out was well beaten. And lamarckise is fine, when he put her along side gypsy island as crocked.
          No I was emailed about 4 weeks ago and it said that Monte Cristo was the best and two others that were interesting and both ran within a week and failed miserably an unseatand and a faller when both were beaten at the time, two others have ran since both short prices and I should have layed them if the previous two were the yardstick.

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          • Step forward Rayapour as Ireland's number 1 for this race. Can't be many higher rated flat horses than him that'll run in it surely??

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            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
              Step forward Rayapour as Ireland's number 1 for this race. Can't be many higher rated flat horses than him that'll run in it surely??
              What is his rating?

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              • All over Rayapour for this but must admit Aspire Tower looks the one to beat , very impressed.

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                • When's Rayapour due out ??. Anyone know.?.

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                  • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post
                    QUOTES: Allmankind is a bit one dimensional as you cannot ride him any other way and when he first came to the yard I did not think he had the edge for jumping but he loves it. I suppose something like the Victor Ludorum at Haydock or a trip to Leopardstown for a Grade 1 hurdle might be on the cards for him next -Dan Skelton, trainer.
                    As short as 6/1 now. Racking up the ticks for this

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                    • Originally posted by charlie View Post
                      As short as 6/1 now. Racking up the ticks for this
                      Been told Goshen is better than Botox Has, so they have a line through one of their horses and Allmankind. Makes my decision not to back Allmankind that bit easier and just hope they are bang on

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                      • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                        Been told Goshen is better than Botox Has, so they have a line through one of their horses and Allmankind. Makes my decision not to back Allmankind that bit easier and just hope they are bang on
                        Trouble with Goshen is seems to be touted as needing soft and his jumping thus far has been very average at best. Huge engine and if clicking could be interesting but plenty of ifs for now.

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                        • Anyone interested in Grand Roi for this?
                          Last edited by The Don; 29 December 2019, 09:00 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                            Been told Goshen is better than Botox Has, so they have a line through one of their horses and Allmankind. Makes my decision not to back Allmankind that bit easier and just hope they are bang on
                            Could be a risky game to play if you take stable collateral form too literally. The Moore’s won’t know how tuned up Allmankind was that day nor will they know how much he may have improved in the meantime.

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                            • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post
                              Could be a risky game to play if you take stable collateral form too literally. The Moore’s won’t know how tuned up Allmankind was that day nor will they know how much he may have improved in the meantime.
                              Oh, 100% Jackie. But they will also know how much their guys were tuned up.

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                              • Surely Goshen backers your main worry would be that he doesn’t seem to know how to jump.

                                If he’s struggling to jump in these small races, how on earth will he cope in a lightning run triumph Hurdle. I couldn’t back him purely because of that.

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