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Triumph Hurdle 2020

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  • Originally posted by jack1092 View Post
    Yes Would need to see him again, but he was promising
    He was mate, I took a punt at 45/1 EW at the start of the month

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    • Pick one....

      A) Goshen
      B) Allmankind
      C) Aspire Tower
      D) Something else that has had a run
      E) Something we haven't seen run this season

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      • safest option is Aspire Tower. Especially looking at the entries for Dublin.
        Think Nicky's Adonis horse is probably Monte Cristo.

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        • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
          Pick one....

          A) Goshen
          B) Allmankind
          C) Aspire Tower
          D) Something else that has had a run
          E) Something we haven't seen run this season
          A) Goshen will be at a significant disadvantage jumping out to his right at Cheltenham, even more so under pressure. Couldn't have him on my mind and wouldn't back were he double the price. Not a horse I like at all. Is it obvious

          B) Tick column stacks up. He is relaxed in the prelims, jumps low and quick from the front, is not ground dependent, has invaluable Cheltenham experience (against 2 subsequent Cheltenham winners) and has a serious engine to boot. If he were trained by Mullins or Henderson he would probably be half the price.

          C) Whilst Aspire Tower looks very good and 11 of the last 14 come from the front four in the market, Allmankind has more going for him for a horse that's similarly priced. If Aspire Tower looks the real deal then I may get involved after the DRF, time will tell.

          D) Be interested to see what others think here.

          E) Only one winner in 31 years had raced only once over hurdles in GB or Ire, so whilst something may emerge from the unseen, yet to be purchased, held back etc, it doesn't happen often so I'm not really interested. Have Gin On Lime @ 25/1 that's about it.

          So in summary, for me it's Allmankind @ 7's. He has one question to answer and that's 'is he good enough to win the Triumph from the front'. I don't have any real tactical concerns because he'll front run. I don't have any jumping concerns because he jumps low and fast. I don't have any course concerns after the way he handled Cheltenham. I don't have any ground concerns after his latest demolition job on heavy when he is supposedly better on good ground. Goes there fresh and deserves to be 7/1.

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          • Allmankind for me. Loved the way he ran at Cheltenham and more than that loved the way Dan Skelton spoke about him afterwards knowing he’d got a good one. I felt he was trying to keep a lid on his ability but you could see he was excited.

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            • I also got that impression. I just think right now there is not a better candidate for this race. Even if i thought there was id still back Allmankind because it will be a fun bet to watch just to see if he can stay out in front the whole way!

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              • Yes - evan williams ? Big orange owners right ? They havent had a cheltenham festival runner before?

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                • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                  Pick one....

                  A) Goshen
                  B) Allmankind
                  C) Aspire Tower
                  D) Something else that has had a run
                  E) Something we haven't seen run this season
                  In order:
                  B)
                  C)
                  D)
                  E)






                  A)

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                  • Originally posted by Middle_Of_March View Post
                    In order:
                    B)
                    C)
                    D)
                    E)






                    A)
                    Ha ha stick me down for A) Kev and in the style of Kevin Keegan (for those of you who are old enough!)... I’ll tell you, honestly, I will love it if Goshen wins the Triumph. Love it!

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                    • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                      Pick one....

                      A) Goshen
                      B) Allmankind
                      C) Aspire Tower
                      D) Something else that has had a run
                      E) Something we haven't seen run this season
                      Originally posted by quevega View Post
                      safest option is Aspire Tower. Especially looking at the entries for Dublin.
                      Think Nicky's Adonis horse is probably Monte Cristo.
                      I'm E for that reason I think.... Rayapour or Monte Cristo

                      I feel like I'm a bit behind on the Triumph... I've avoided getting excited by anything and it's left me in a spot where I have nothing anywhere near the top of the market (unusual territory for me in all honesty)

                      Quite refreshing in a way though too

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                      • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                        I'm E for that reason I think.... Rayapour or Monte Cristo

                        I feel like I'm a bit behind on the Triumph... I've avoided getting excited by anything and it's left me in a spot where I have nothing anywhere near the top of the market (unusual territory for me in all honesty)

                        Quite refreshing in a way though too
                        (D) or (E) for me. I have this suspicion that the front three in the market could all spoil each other’s chances on the front end. This could set things up for something to pick them off down the stretch. I’m not sure what that something is but the best horse might not win. If Allmankind or Aspire Tower were running without the other two in the race then I’d think they’d win. Goshen I can’t see winning regardless unless his jumping improves markedly.

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                        • (e) Think Rayapour might yet make an appearance and if he transfers his flat form to hurdles he could be a big player.

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                          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                            (e) Think Rayapour might yet make an appearance and if he transfers his flat form to hurdles he could be a big player.
                            Certainly going to be an interesting one if he does hit the course this season. I still have a nagging doubt he’ll be kept for next season despite the entry.

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                            • The layers are tightening up the front 3 in betting making it a 3 horse book atm.

                              I'm with Aspire Tower but after the let down of Apples Shakira 33s never count on them.

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                              • Henderson has Grand Roi making hurdles bow tomorrow’s at Fakenham. 33/1 for triumph. Going to take this as if it wins will be significantly shorter as it’s Hendersons I imagine. A bit like when fusil raffles won last year.
                                Last edited by Penzance; 22 January 2020, 08:25 PM.

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