Triumph Hurdle 2020

[FaugheenTheMachine]

Just won’t get away with that jumping at Cheltenham, won’t be in the first 3

[darlojim]

Clearly has a massive engine but cannot have him at all for this with his jumping. He can't be that far clear of the rest to be able to jump as bad as that and that much to his right to still be able to win this

[charlie]

Good description by Jim McGrath then... a flawed diamond.

Very well put I thought. He clearly has ability but who could have him at single figure prices going left handed jumping like that? He'll be under even more pressure in March and I just don't see it. Homer is rubbish.

[charlie]

Just won’t get away with that jumping at Cheltenham, won’t be in the first 3

He's a superb in play lay proposition IMO

[Kevloaf]

Just won’t get away with that jumping at Cheltenham, won’t be in the first 3

Clearly has a massive engine but cannot have him at all for this with his jumping. He can't be that far clear of the rest to be able to jump as bad as that and that much to his right to still be able to win this

Defi Du Seuil was also rubbish at jumping as a juvenile.

It didn't stop him...

[charlie]

Pushed out for Triumph after win like that basically says it all.

[BigChaang]

Go on Goshen .... Prove them all wrong !! ..

[darlojim]

Defi Du Seuil was also rubbish at jumping as a juvenile.

It didn't stop him...

defi was far from rubbish, just go look back at the 3 runs at cheltenham as a juvenile. He was prone to walking through the odd one but clearly learnt race by race. Goshen isn't anywhere close to being as fluent as DDS was, and thats without the going right handed issue.

[Kevloaf]

defi was far from rubbish, just go look back at the 3 runs at cheltenham as a juvenile. He was prone to walking through the odd one but clearly learnt race by race. Goshen isn't anywhere close to being as fluent as DDS was, and thats without the going right handed issue.

Far from rubbish....
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Prone to walking through the odd one.



That's not far from rubbish, walking through hurdles means you're close to rubbish at jumping them


I didn't say Goshen is as good as Defi Du Seuil, just highlighting that horses don't need to be perfect (or great, or good) over the hurdles to win a Triumph.

[Morley Street]

All you doubters may be right but whoever you back in the Triumph there will be some element of doubt that you have underestimated him. I think the pace of the race will suit him and it’s possible he could be that good... happy to be on at 25s.

[darlojim]

Far from rubbish....
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Prone to walking through the odd one.



That's not far from rubbish, walking through hurdles means you're close to rubbish at jumping them


I didn't say Goshen is as good as Defi Du Seuil, just highlighting that horses don't need to be perfect (or great, or good) over the hurdles to win a Triumph.

ok let me re word it then..
he was rubbish at chepstow over 3 flights.. there

bar the chepstow run he was actually pretty quick over his hurdles

[Quevega]

All you doubters may be right but whoever you back in the Triumph there will be some element of doubt that you have underestimated him. I think the pace of the race will suit him and it’s possible he could be that good... happy to be on at 25s.

His best chance is if he takes out the other two front runners by side swiping them at the last.

[Quevega]

If the jockeys smart enough he'll give them no room on his inside for sure, if he's still up there.

The jumping won't matter too much till near the end, I'm sure they barely jump a hurdle in the last mile. Is it just 2 or 3 in last mile or so.

[Quevega]

Is there any more fancy purchases still to come or are we now looking at the top three really.
Has Elliott got anything ?
I'm beginning to regret not taking the 7's NRNB for aspire tower now.

[JackieMoon33]

All you doubters may be right but whoever you back in the Triumph there will be some element of doubt that you have underestimated him. I think the pace of the race will suit him and it’s possible he could be that good... happy to be on at 25s.

He goes from the front so the pace of the race is always run to suit him ultimately. What won’t suit him is the possibility that two fancied runners will also want to go from the front too. That will put his jumping under pressure as he won’t get an easy lead that he can maintain regardless of any errors. It’s going to be fascinating if they all turn up on the day and all want to force the pace. I hope it does not result in them cutting each others throats and then some rag coming through and picking them off up the hill.