Cheltenham Gold Cup 2020

[Kevloaf]

Presenting Certainty iz da best

I.D.S.T

[archie]

Or are you talking about the traffic if you leave before the last ?

It better had be. My flight home is at 18.10.

[SuperTiger]

No opinions stated as facts please ... it can cause confusion and derail a thread.


Why do you think lostintranslation will win the Gold Cup?

Yes agreed. Out of order Raven.

[Super Raven]

Travelled poorly throughout the race in the KG, got himself into contention when clearly not travelling well, reached at the jump that ultimately cost him his chance. I think if he travels well early and gets himself into a position he will be difficult to beat. Good record at Cheltenham whereas there are question marks against the likes of CDO, Santini and Kemboy who are ahead of him in the market. ABP the obvious danger. what are your thoughts? I backed him for the KG so believe he has a strong chance at course he knows well over fences.

No opinions stated as facts please ... it can cause confusion and derail a thread.


Why do you think lostintranslation will win the Gold Cup?

[Super Raven]

yes just a prediction but I have a strong feeling on this one.. apologies for the confusion.

Whilst I agree in the main about opinions as facts ‘Envoi runs in the Ballymore 100%’ for example, I’m not sure Super Ravens post is the same here. Nobody can possibly think it’s being stated as a fact when it’s a predictions. As if he’s ITK as to LIT winning exactly by 1.5 lengths.

[Super Raven]

of course!

Yeah, I see it as a bullish prediction. I’m sure it’s meant like that too not a “fact”.

If it is a fact, i’m keen to hear Raven’s other facts!

[charlie]

Travelled poorly throughout the race in the KG, got himself into contention when clearly not travelling well, reached at the jump that ultimately cost him his chance. I think if he travels well early and gets himself into a position he will be difficult to beat. Good record at Cheltenham whereas there are question marks against the likes of CDO, Santini and Kemboy who are ahead of him in the market. ABP the obvious danger. what are your thoughts? I backed him for the KG so believe he has a strong chance at course he knows well over fences.

Absolutely agree with all of that. LIT has definitely replaced Native River as the Gold Cup number 1 of the Tizzard yard that's for sure

[Super Raven]

Definitely, think it all points towards a strong run for LIT. I am confident.

Absolutely agree with all of that. LIT has definitely replaced Native River as the Gold Cup number 1 of the Tizzard yard that's for sure

[SuperTiger]

Absolutely agree with all of that. LIT has definitely replaced Native River as the Gold Cup number 1 of the Tizzard yard that's for sure

Agreed too - he's definitely still a big contender in the race. This weekend will determine more changes in the market but I still think LIT is great value atm. Can't have Santini at all.

[The Beast]

Not saying LIT or Kemboy cant win but both untried over trip of gold cup , take Clan D O for example cruised around and didnt get up hill , Might Bite another one and so on and so on. Will need optimum going to win in my opinion.

[Kevloaf]

Travelled poorly throughout the race in the KG, got himself into contention when clearly not travelling well, reached at the jump that ultimately cost him his chance. I think if he travels well early and gets himself into a position he will be difficult to beat. Good record at Cheltenham whereas there are question marks against the likes of CDO, Santini and Kemboy who are ahead of him in the market. ABP the obvious danger. what are your thoughts? I backed him for the KG so believe he has a strong chance at course he knows well over fences.

I really like Lostintranslation now. I didn't before the season started though, so never been a backable price.

I can't really rule out any of the shortest 7 in the betting though so it's not a race that I'm heavily invested in yet

[Kevloaf]

Not saying LIT or Kemboy cant win but both untried over trip of gold cup , take Clan D O for example cruised around and didnt get up hill , Might Bite another one and so on and so on. Will need optimum going to win in my opinion.

Tis a decent point. Very rare to KNOW a horse stays 3m2f before it runs in this race.

Percy and Elegant Escape have won over further. ABP doesn't need to prove it. Santini looks like he will be not proven. Which for most others may also be true

[Super Raven]

I agree, such a strong GC field. I just like the fact he's got a good record round Cheltenham, more unexposed than others over the trip and there is a lot of scope for improvement with him having beat BDM round haydock pretty effortlessly, looked like he had a lot more in reserve and I really think BDM would have beaten Santini on Saturday if he didn't make a mess of 3 out..

I really like Lostintranslation now. I didn't before the season started though, so never been a backable price.

I can't really rule out any of the shortest 7 in the betting though so it's not a race that I'm heavily invested in yet

[Super Raven]

Tis a decent point. Very rare to KNOW a horse stays 3m2f before it runs in this race.

Percy and Elegant Escape have won over further. ABP doesn't need to prove it. Santini looks like he will be not proven. Which for most others may also be true

Suppose there is a question mark on whether he stays the trip but seeing him stay on strongly at haydock and then he was never travelling at Kempton but still got himself into a winnable position before a mess of a jump makes me feel more confident he stays. Going to be an incredible race to watch.

[Istabraq]

I really think BDM would have beaten Santini on Saturday if he didn't make a mess of 3 out..

Not a view I get.
BDM made a mistake and Santini went past him, 50 yards later BDM was back in front and stayed there as Santini met both the next and last fence on a wrong stride yet powered away for a comfortable win.
March is a different race of course but I can see nothing in BDM to convince me he finishes ahead of Santini...