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Cheltenham Gold Cup 2020

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  • Originally posted by charlie View Post
    I’d need a gun to the head to side with Santini
    If I go back far enough, were you with me when I was crabbing him during his novice hurdle and novice chase career for being chronically over rated?



    My point at the time though was always that "he's a future Gold Cup horse" didn't mean he justified the price he is now.

    It's my opinion now though, that because that theory has been proved right, people have forgotten that this horse has been "the" perfect Gold Cup horse, and this test is exactly what he wants.


    I remember so many podcasts that gave him as the most exciting novice chase prospect, and ultimately he disappointed a bit.... but the Gold CUp was always going to be the race where he potentially puts in a career best.



    His trajectory is going the right way.... I don't know how anybody could dismiss him, I really don't understand it now. (Ignoring price by the way, obviously I can see why 7/2 isn't a good value bet in this particular race given the depth)

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    • He's my biggest winner of the week, been backing him since just before Aintree last year. A bit left field here but i see a parallel between him and Imperial Commander

      Totally agree with this. I was on Imperial Commander that day & despite the noise around Kauto/Denman - I felt he had the most potential to improve that day as an “outsider”.

      I’m of the exact same opinion this year with LIT. Henrietta Knight stated he’s the best jumper she’s seen since Best Mate for a reason. Yes, his prep’s not great being PU last time however the favourite for this has fallen 3 times in his career, the rest of the field have enough questions to answer too.

      For me he’s the class horse in the race. All be it he has to improve on previous & IMO he will.

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      • Originally posted by MadeinJapan View Post
        He's my biggest winner of the week, been backing him since just before Aintree last year. A bit left field here but i see a parallel between him and Imperial Commander

        Totally agree with this. I was on Imperial Commander that day & despite the noise around Kauto/Denman - I felt he had the most potential to improve that day as an “outsider”.

        I’m of the exact same opinion this year with LIT. Henrietta Knight stated he’s the best jumper she’s seen since Best Mate for a reason. Yes, his prep’s not great being PU last time however the favourite for this has fallen 3 times in his career, the rest of the field have enough questions to answer too.

        For me he’s the class horse in the race. All be it he has to improve on previous & IMO he will.
        ABP hasn't fallen in his last 6 runs over the last two years, so it's fair to say his jumping has probably improved since he was a novice.

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        • Combined with how slow he’s looked and the price of 7/2 I just couldn’t be backing Santini in this with anyone’s money. I feel he’ll get done for tactical speed vs the likes of ABP and Kemboy who is no slouch when they get their tactics right. I can see how others like him as a horse but on price grounds I simply could not be backing him

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          • I am quite happy kemboy is the price he is at the minute, not got him backed yet but at 8 or 9/1 widely available think it’s a great price.

            Flying under the radar because he’s been beaten a couple of times this season.

            Also think delta work is still decent enough value at 6/1 in some places, much better form than santini this season having won 2 grade 1’s.

            But as we all know the prices these days are shocking across the board.

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            • Originally posted by charlie View Post
              I’d need a gun to the head to side with Santini

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              • Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post
                But as we all know the prices these days are shocking across the board.
                Yes, 1-2 weeks beforehand always a poor time for value but as we edge closer there should be the odd scrum for business so expect a little more juice to appear...

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                • We're likely to get 5/1 the field between now and the start surely....

                  Just need to work out which you like and pick the right moment

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                  • I thought there was an interesting point made on the at the races preview night last night

                    with no native river making it a true stamina test potentially leaves the pace to be slower. I know clan des obeux didn’t stay last year but do we think this could be a result of the hard pace which won’t be there this year. Looked impressive again in the king George and potentially stronger this year. Wind expected across the week to bring the ground a real good to soft also could help him out.


                    Can’t say he was one I was overly considering before last night but definitely can see the angle

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                    • Slow pace would suit lit too

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                      • Al Boum Photo
                        Bristol de Mai
                        Chris's Dream
                        Clan des Obeaux
                        Delta Work
                        Elegant Escape
                        Kemboy
                        Lostintranslation
                        Monalee
                        Presenting Percy
                        Real Steel
                        Santini

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                        • Skybet paying 5 places in this.

                          Added 2pts ew Bristol de Mai at 20/1. 4/1 that is comes in the top 5 is too big IMO

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                          • Originally posted by ryanh97 View Post
                            Skybet paying 5 places in this.

                            Added 2pts ew Bristol de Mai at 20/1. 4/1 that is comes in the top 5 is too big IMO
                            Think I’ll take advantage of that offer. Chris’ Dream for me though

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                            • In again @ 5.4/1 on Santini

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                              • Lostintranslation is out to 11/1 (4 places)


                                Tizzard very weak, this week though.

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