Originally posted by Istabraq
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Request-a-Bets (was 'Sky Bets' thread)
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33s and 50s, fair enough.
I backed Minella Indo at 33s in March 2020 (for 2021) and Monkfish 40/1 in Feb 2021 (for 2022) so that suggests 40/1 for Bob O for a race in 23 months is an insult in itself and that includes winning a race in 2022 too.
I’d have thought the 2021 any race/2021 Gold Cup double should be no less than 100/1....
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Originally posted by Istabraq View Post33s and 50s, fair enough.
I backed Minella Indo at 33s in March 2020 (for 2021) and Monkfish 40/1 in Feb 2021 (for 2022) so that suggests 40/1 for Bob O for a race in 23 months is an insult in itself and that includes winning a race in 2022 too.
I’d have thought the 2021 any race/2021 Gold Cup double should be no less than 100/1....
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Originally posted by Lobos View Post
Agree. I never entertain those sort of bets. It's difficult enough getting a horse to run at the Fez let alone run in the right race . Getting there and winning any race and then getting there and winning the GC !!! Nah.
2 years out the level of unpredictability is incalculable and when MI/Monkfish were backable at 33/1 and 40/1 they’d both had almost an entire novice chase season, what Sky are asking you to do it take a similar price with an added years risk with the horse being 6 months away from jumping a fence in public.
200/1 would be a price I’d consider taking, 150/1 less so but not hugely unreasonable, 40/1
is just an insult...
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Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
On reflection he should probably be 150/1 or bigger.
2 years out the level of unpredictability is incalculable and when MI/Monkfish were backable at 33/1 and 40/1 they’d both had almost an entire novice chase season, what Sky are asking you to do it take a similar price with an added years risk with the horse being 6 months away from jumping a fence in public.
200/1 would be a price I’d consider taking, 150/1 less so but not hugely unreasonable, 40/1
is just an insult...
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Originally posted by Lobos View Post
Yep. Of course the odd one or two do work out and then the price to win the final leg looks superb but bets like that are a bookies dream.
....I wonder how Sky fared on their RaBs this year. Lots on here were on at least 2 successful 200-1 shots (inc Bob O/Appreciate It a/r), not to mention plenty shorter that went in. Adding to that, the Shishkin Arkle/CC and Monkfish RSA/GC liabilities for next year.
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Originally posted by Eggs View Post
....I wonder how Sky fared on their RaBs this year.
So many of these include horses that don’t make it to race week and when the likes of Envoi hit the ground it has to take out a big chunk.
Great to see a few land and I’m surprised Sky don’t make more of that as a marketing tool but every chance 90%+ of those quoted in the Summer will be dead
before March...
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Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
I’d be fairly confident they won plenty as they always do.
So many of these include horses that don’t make it to race week and when the likes of Envoi hit the ground it has to take out a big chunk.
Great to see a few land and I’m surprised Sky don’t make more of that as a marketing tool but every chance 90%+ of those quoted in the Summer will be dead
before March...
...yep, getting to the meeting is an achievement in itself. Another factor is steering clear of a/r multiples where 2 selections have a strong chance of meeting in March. It didn’t help Sky that so many of the fancied ones went in & if they did make a profit I doubt that would’ve been the case had Envoi stood up.
I admit to having had a really good meeting largely because of RaBs but do think you have to be selective when backing them.Last edited by Eggs; 13 April 2021, 12:57 PM.
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Originally posted by Eggs View Post
...yep, getting to the meeting is an achievement in itself. Another factor is steering clear of a/r multiples where 2 selections have a strong chance of meeting in March. It didn’t help Sky that so many of the fancied ones went in & if they did make a profit I doubt that would’ve been the case had Envoi stood up.
I admit to having had a really good meeting largely because of RaBs but do think you have to be selective when backing them.
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Originally posted by Sprinter Sacre View Post
I'd be interested in the same for My Drogo.
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Originally posted by MadeinJapan View Post
I asked Will Hill for this & the same bet for Bob Olinger - they’ve refused to price it saying they’re not offering odds on the 2023 Festival... said the TWAR market for next year will be up in 7 days...
...cheers, I was coming to the assumption they weren’t doing an a/r market. Wonder if multiples will be allowed.
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Originally posted by MadeinJapan View Post
I asked Will Hill for this & the same bet for Bob Olinger - they’ve refused to price it saying they’re not offering odds on the 2023 Festival... said the TWAR market for next year will be up in 7 days...
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Originally posted by That Horse View Post
The win any race markets for Cheltenham 22 at WH are up on their app now, multiples can't be selected unfortunately, it's not giving me the option of doing any doubles, etc
Shishkin 4/5
Bob Olinger 7/4
Appreciate It 7/4
Sir Gerhard 2/1
Allaho 5/2
Kilcruit 5/2
Envoi Allen 4/1
Thyme Hill 4/1
Tiger Roll 4/1
Jonbon 5/1
Stattler 5/1
Put The Kettle On 6/1
Bravemansgame 6/1
Energumene 6/1
Tellmesomethinggirl 6/1
Quilixios 6/1
Shewearsitwell 6/1
Vanillier 7/1
Journey With Me 7/1
Three Stripe Life 14/1
The Bosses Oscar 14/1
Torygraph 14/1
The Big Breakaway 16/1
Editeur Du Gite 16/1
Stage Star 16/1
Pencilfulloflead 16/1Last edited by Atlantic Viking; 14 April 2021, 05:37 PM.
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