Sky request a bet have Envoi Allen (Marsh) and Wide Receiver (Any Race) both to win at 22-1.
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Originally posted by fatherjohn View Poston sky saw this boosted to 150s in TWE. as it has a few horses I missed prices on ive had a small punt
Appreciate It (SNH), Chacun Pour Soi (QM), Monkfish (RSA) all to win; Bravemansgame (BNH), Sharjah (CH) both to place
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Just had 0.5pt on The Bosses Oscar, Shan Blue, Melon, Latest Exhibition and Kilruit all to place in any race @ 250/1
I think that's very fair. The Bosses Oscar ran a perfect race to be aimed at the Pertemps and is current fav. I don't expect Shan Blue to beat Envoi Allen but I expect him to be very dangerous on the front end jumping the way he does so expect him to hit the frame. Melon will hopefully go Ryanair and after last years run in the March and run over Xmas I'd be confident he'd hit the frame. I think Monkfish will scare PN off sending LE to the RSA and they will go 4 miler and he's have excellent place chances in that. I admittedly don't know too much about Kilcruit but he's been tipped a fair bit ante post so I'll cross my fingers and hope.
1pt Easysland, Envoi Allen, Sir Gerhard and Shishkin all to win by 2 lengths or more @ 100/1
I think the latter is very, very good. Still thereLast edited by charlie; 1 January 2021, 08:42 AM.
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Does anyone know future running plans of Shishkin? Is he likely to go straight to Cheltenham?
Hills have him priced up at 7/1 to be unbeaten in 2021. If he goes straight to Cheltenham, he'll probably only have 3 runs (maximum of 4).
Arkle Aintree (unlikely)
Schloer/Tingle Creek
Desert Orchid
7/1 looks fair enough to me.
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Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View PostDoes anyone know future running plans of Shishkin? Is he likely to go straight to Cheltenham?
Hills have him priced up at 7/1 to be unbeaten in 2021. If he goes straight to Cheltenham, he'll probably only have 3 runs (maximum of 4).
Arkle Aintree (unlikely)
Schloer/Tingle Creek
Desert Orchid
7/1 looks fair enough to me.
Shishkin has come out of Kempton very well and I’m extremely happy with him. I want to give him one more run before the Arkle and it will be in either the Kingmaker at Warwick or Game Spirit at Newbury but I also have Altior pencilled in for that
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Originally posted by Quevega View PostCan someone who does these bets request....
Mullins to have 0 winners
Elliott to have 0 winners
& Both Mullins & Elliott to have 0 winners.
They may just not cotton on totally and offer 50-1 or above.
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Appreciate It to win ANY race at the Festival in 2022 & Shishkin to win the Queen Mother Champion Chase 2022
80/1 @ Sky Requestabets
For those of you (a limited number possibly) who like to look ahead and are prepared to invest in the future and therefore tying your money down for an extended period, I believe this to be a bet of potentially huge value.
On the initial first glance, it looks a sound bet anyway. I think it’s when you delve in a little deeper it’s tremendous ante post value becomes generously apparent. I think the key to the bet is Appreciate It, and his likely progression next season. If he wins the Supreme (or even finishes in the top 3 in a reasonably close finish, he’ll confirm to Willie and all of us he has the 2 mile pace. That leads Appreciate It down one of 3 paths - Champion Hurdle, Arkle or Marsh. Willie has made no secret of the fact he believes this horse is a natural chaser, so it’s a good enough assumption to believe that’s the route he’ll take with him.
Its feasible to believe, with a career trajectory currently being sustained, Appreciate It could well be a ‘shorty’ for the Novice Chases, especially the Arkle.
Shishkin’s career trajectory evidently appears upwards, and it’s almost certain that he’ll be running in next year’s Champion Chase. If he proves to be as good as Sprinter Sacre (1/4 odds for his first Champion chase) & Altior (evens money for his first Champion chase), and he arrives unbeaten over 2 miles in open company, then he’ll very likely be going off at odds similiar to Henderson’s 2 previous two mile superstar chasers.
For me, with all known evidence of Appreciate It & Shishkin’s careers so far, coupled with reasonable assumptions of where both are likely to be going in little under 15 months time, I believe the 80/1 price could well be one of the exceptional ante post bets currently available for 2022.
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