Lostintranslation 25/1 with Skybet for the Betfair Chase and Gold Cup Double. Juice or no juice?
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Originally posted by somer1 View PostLostintranslation 25/1 with Skybet for the Betfair Chase and Gold Cup Double. Juice or no juice?
He's favourite for the Betfair Chase at 7/4 and 14/1 for the Gold Cup.... but if he wins you wouldn't get 14/1....
Even and 14/1 is still 28/1, so it's not value as it is, but IF you like LIT, I can definitely see why you'd back the special.
He's on the cusp for me.Some very good judges I know are telling me I should be taking 14/1 now, but I'm not sure yet
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LIT would not be on my radar. He did run a very good race this year but just think it was run to suit. The slow pace would have helped him get home. I don't think he looks a proper GC staying type to me. His run in the JLT v Defi showed he had a lot of pace and he's excelled on flat tracks over 3 miles and 2 1/2 around Cheltenham. His win in last year's Betfair Chase was also on unusually quick ground for that time of year. I'd be very interested in him for the Ryanair but think that the Tizzards have already made up their minds to go for the GC. I think he'll get found out if next year's race is run at a proper paceLast edited by Lobos; 12 November 2020, 11:21 PM.
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Originally posted by Lobos View PostLIT would not be on my radar. He did run a very good race this year but just think it was run to suit. The slow pace would have helped him get home. I don't think he looks a proper GC staying type to me. His run in the JLT v Defi showed he had a lot of pace and he's excelled on flat tracks over 3 miles and 2 1/2 around Cheltenham. His win in last year's Betfair Chase was also on unusually quick ground for that time of year. I'd be very interested in him for the Ryanair but think that the Tizzards have already made up their minds to go for the GC. I think he'll get found out if next year's race is run at a proper pace
IF it's not a strong run race, then does he have a chance?
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Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
Your first two sentences, with the last sentence - contradition.
IF it's not a strong run race, then does he have a chance?
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Originally posted by Lobos View Post
He does but slow run GC's are unusual so he'll be lucky to have 2 in a row. Part of me thinks Melon will run in the race to ensure pace for Al Boum as he is an out and out Stayer and Mullins is desperate to grab a third GC for him . Whilst Boum won off a slow pace this year they would prefer a faster run race for him as he is even more effective off that.
Do they need a 4x Festival runner up to be a pacemaker for a 2x Gold Cup winner?
Sad state of affairs if they're both not running on merit pal.
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Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
Melon will not be a pace maker for Al Boum Photo will he?
Do they need a 4x Festival runner up to be a pacemaker for a 2x Gold Cup winner?
Sad state of affairs if they're both not running on merit pal.
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Originally posted by Lobos View Post
As I said, I just think Mullins wants to join in the record books as a triple GC winner. I see no other reason why Melon would go for the GC. He's not a GC horse for me. Willie is desperate for Boum to win again which is why I'm so keen on him. Everything will be done to help him get there and I think he will.
I disagree that he is desperate for ABP to win again. I think he would love any horse to give him a 3rd win. If Melon beats ABP to the Gold Cup, and you think Willie will be disappointed, you're dumber than you come across
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Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
Melon would be going for the Gold Cup on merit....he'll be given chance along the way to show if he stays 3m....if he does, no way he's a pace maker or there for ABP's benefit.
I disagree that he is desperate for ABP to win again. I think he would love any horse to give him a 3rd win. If Melon beats ABP to the Gold Cup, and you think Willie will be disappointed, you're dumber than you come across
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Originally posted by Lobos View PostLIT would not be on my radar. He did run a very good race this year but just think it was run to suit. The slow pace would have helped him get home. I don't think he looks a proper GC staying type to me. His run in the JLT v Defi showed he had a lot of pace and he's excelled on flat tracks over 3 miles and 2 1/2 around Cheltenham. His win in last year's Betfair Chase was also on unusually quick ground for that time of year. I'd be very interested in him for the Ryanair but think that the Tizzards have already made up their minds to go for the GC. I think he'll get found out if next year's race is run at a proper pace
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Originally posted by Middle_Of_March View Post
Watch that Betfair Chase back LIT won. That race was as big a staying test as any Grade 1 run last season. He beat BDM by out-staying him.
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