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2021 Albert Bartlett Novices Hurdle

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  • The Race Planning Diary is love.
    The Race Planning Diary is life.

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    • Saxon Warrior Great shout on Torygraph, was not on my radar at all until you flagged him up.

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      • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post
        Torygraph was already "up there" pre-race, on RPR's vs the favourites for the Albert Bartlett, so I would expect him to probably be Gordon Elliott's (and Gigginstown's) number one for the race now, and should shorten below 20/1 a little.
        Do you think that given the lack of rateable opposition today. The Irish handicapper might leave him on a decent mark.
        It's difficult to justify putting him up from 132 much.
        Maybe 137/138 ?
        How could he justify much more ?
        Which puts him bang in with a chance of going to a handicap at the festival.

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        • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post
          Torygraph was already "up there" pre-race, on RPR's vs the favourites for the Albert Bartlett, so I would expect him to probably be Gordon Elliott's (and Gigginstown's) number one for the race now, and should shorten below 20/1 a little.
          Depends what farouk d'alene does at the DRF at a guess whether he's the number 1 for gordon/Gigginstown

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          • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

            Depends what farouk d'alene does at the DRF at a guess whether he's the number 1 for gordon/Gigginstown
            Yes, agreed. My own thoughts of FD are that he seems to leap a bit right-handed at his jumps, and he ran a weaker race when going left-handed (4th) than his two right-handed wins.
            "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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            • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

              Do you think that given the lack of rateable opposition today. The Irish handicapper might leave him on a decent mark.
              It's difficult to justify putting him up from 132 much.
              Maybe 137/138 ?
              How could he justify much more ?
              Which puts him bang in with a chance of going to a handicap at the festival.
              I was thinking that myself Q, I dont think he will get a big official rating from the Irish handicapper now he has had his three runs.

              Gigginstown always say they are after winning the Graded races and not the handicaps, so if they have a horse good enough for a Graded race, then I think they will go for it

              They always have plenty left over for the handicaps anyway.
              "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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              • Originally posted by robith View Post
                The Race Planning Diary is love.
                The Race Planning Diary is life.
                I'm so glad I did it.

                One thing the Lockdowns gave me time to do properly.
                "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                • Originally posted by isitmarchyet View Post
                  Saxon Warrior Great shout on Torygraph, was not on my radar at all until you flagged him up.
                  @Isitmarchyet
                  You are welcome. This Forum is here to nudge each other to check horses out that each of us has spotted. Its great to have others to share thoughts with.
                  "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                  • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post

                    I was thinking that myself Q, I dont think he will get a big official rating from the Irish handicapper now he has had his three runs.

                    Gigginstown always say they are after winning the Graded races and not the handicaps, so if they have a horse good enough for a Graded race, then I think they will go for it

                    They always have plenty left over for the handicaps anyway.
                    Agreed.
                    But they'll certainly run something on a decent mark in the pipe that the trainer thinks is better.
                    So any Pipe entries would fit both bills, unless they've been given over 142+ by the Irish Handicapper already.

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                    • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                      Agreed.
                      But they'll certainly run something on a decent mark in the pipe that the trainer thinks is better.
                      So any Pipe entries would fit both bills, unless they've been given over 142+ by the Irish Handicapper already.
                      Yes Q,

                      The Handicap Entries Day and then the Handicap Weights Day are my two favourite days on the build up to the Fez.
                      "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                      • Took the 40/1 on torygraph blindly this morning after reading about him on here

                        Happy enough with him and stattler now for the time being.

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                        • Interesting Betfair go shortest of the lot at 12s. Thanks SW

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                          • Because it’s NRNB

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                            • Originally posted by riccirich View Post
                              Took the 40/1 on torygraph blindly this morning after reading about him on here

                              Happy enough with him and stattler now for the time being.
                              They're my pair too at this point.
                              "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                              • Originally posted by Muswell View Post
                                Because it’s NRNB
                                Cheers. Totally ignored that fact.

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