2021 Ballymore Novices Hurdle

[charlie]

He's in so many multiples! GDM without BO 11/10 landed too, its all going off!

[Pendil]

I can't speak

BOLLY ALL ROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes please WHOOPEEE

[ToniC]

Congratulations all. Superb ride again from Rachael, perfect start to day 2!

[HoldenTheReins]

33/1 held since last March, early bird gets the worm. Well done all.

[Hurricane fly]

Oh my Lord

Wasn’t stopping either was he!

[charlie]

Congratulations all. Superb ride again from Rachael, perfect start to day 2!

Amen Toni, amen.

[Eggs]

.....RaB, Appreciate It/Bob Ollinger a/r @ 200-1 landed. I know some folk crab those bets, but that’s 2 years running we’ve got a nice one in. Yeeeeees.

Glad I Backed Bob win today & a/r next year 18-1 and Marsh 22-1 just before the off.

[Atlantic Viking]

.....RaB, Appreciate It/Bob Ollinger a/r @ 200-1 landed. I know some folk cramp those bets, but that’s 2 years running we’ve got a nice one in. Yeeeeees.

Glad I Backed Bob win today & a/r next year 18-1 and Marsh 22-1 just before the off.

Well in fella, chuffed to bits for you!

[Freyno]

Yes great one lads makes it even better when pretty much the whole forum is on it

[opatcho]

What a beast!

[FinalFurlong91]

Did Bob olinger really just win this taking a pull turning for home or am I still asleep

[darlojim]

Gwannnn bobby lad

Absolutely perfect start

[somer1]

Huge winner for me. Thanx whoever put it up

[Big Bucks]

Bobby fucking O

[ComplyOrDie]

No one likes anyone that gloats, but.....

Didn't want to clog up the ante post thread with comparing horses coming from PTP's and NHF races and this post centre's around Bob Olinger, who has been mentioned by a few members prior to this post and I wanted to get a grasp on where he would fit in at this stage of his career (improvement obviously likely):

It only revolves around RPR's and Top Speed (TS) figures, as none have official ratings coming from the PTP or NHF sphere that I am going to discuss.

Bob Olinger posted an RPR of 93 in his PTP, then followed up by hitting 135 on his NHF race debut, with a TS of 81, so I wanted to check against previous novice horses that had gone on to win in the Supreme and Ballymore hurdle races at the festival, as well as against some other bumper horses this season just gone.

All from their debut NHF runs.

Ballymore winners:

Envoi Allen - PTP: RPR 94
NHF: RPR 131
NHF: TS 20

City Island - NHF: RPR 123
NHF: TS 73

Samcro - PTP: RPR 92
NHF: RPR 118

Faugheen - PTP: RPR 90
NHF: RPR 136
TS: RPR 111


Supreme:

Shishkin - PTP: RPR 83 & 92
NHF: RPR 112
NHF: TS 82

Klassical Dream - No data

Summerville Boy - NHF: RPR 117

Altior - NHF: RPR 120

Festival bumper horses:

Ferny Hollow - PTP: RPR 93
NHF: RPR 128
NHF: TS 60

Appreciate It - PTP: RPR 82 & 90
NHF: RPR 129
NHF: TS 61

Queens Brook - PTP: RPR 73 & 82
NHF: RPR 123
NHF: TS 78

I've used debuts only for NHF races as that's all we have to go on for Bob Olinger, and of course many in this list went on to improve. I used the last 3 years winners for the Supreme and Ballymore and also one horse from recent times that I believe and i'm sure many do have gone on to become superstars, in this case Faugheen and Altior. I've also used the 1-2-3 from the bumper this season.

On the figures we have above, obviously not conclusive, it would appear on first glance that Bob Olinger could well become one to reckon with as the season progresses, he fits somewhere between Faugheen and Envoi Allen for what they all achieved at that point of their careers, and I personally believe we will see him near the head of any race market he is aimed at.

Trainer would have to be taken into consideration, and although I'd trust de Bromhead more with a chaser I don't think he is short of knowing what is needed to win a novice hurdle. Whether he can make it happen may be another thing.

I wanted a record of this so posted it on the forum as this is my go to place for all things Cheltenham now.

Currently 33/1 for both the Supreme and Ballymore, or alternatively 16/1 (can be boosted) any race with Hills.

In all seriousness, congrats to those that were on, fantastic for the forum, I know some were on pre the post above, so well played