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2021 Ballymore Novices Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by Might_Bite View Post
    Couldn't agree more FM, if youre getting 20s+ when hills bring in their offer thats a bet.

    Unless they thought going up in trip would bring out huge improvement, I don't understand why they would go Ballymore rather than Supreme.
    His speed might be more of a useful tool in this race?

    I also think if you could guarantee he'd run to the same level in both, this race would produce a lower winning mark... as I feel Appreciate It is better than the lot.

    If I was looking at reversing the form with Appreciate It, or taking on Gaillard Du Mesnil, I'd give some very, very serious consideration to running here..... I would understand it at the very least




    33/1 NRNB seems a big enough price not to be so clear on one race over the other? Would you guys not fancy him here, but fancy him in a Supreme?
    Last edited by Kevloaf; 4 March 2021, 04:16 PM.

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    • Bit of Ballymore analysis 31.50 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df_s...ature=youtu.be

      Well worth a listen - Davy is ludicrously knowledgeable on breeding and Paul Nolan is just a funny bloke!!!

      They are big on Bob Olinger, must follow the forum

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      • Jamie Codd - 'Bob Olinger is god given certainty for Cheltenham'

        Go on The Coddfather

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        • Originally posted by charlie View Post
          Jamie Codd - 'Bob Olinger is god given certainty for Cheltenham'

          Go on The Coddfather
          Every time Rachel talks about him you get the same impression.

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          • Reckon Skybet will pay out on the AI/BO 200/1 double yet?

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            • Originally posted by Hurricane fly View Post
              Reckon Skybet will pay out on the AI/BO 200/1 double yet?
              Pretty sure Davy Russell said they would

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              • Big Bad Bob is one of my multiple lynchpins so hope JC is on the money!

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                • Bob favourite on the exchanges. It's marginal but he's favourite.

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                  • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                    His speed might be more of a useful tool in this race?

                    I also think if you could guarantee he'd run to the same level in both, this race would produce a lower winning mark... as I feel Appreciate It is better than the lot.

                    If I was looking at reversing the form with Appreciate It, or taking on Gaillard Du Mesnil, I'd give some very, very serious consideration to running here..... I would understand it at the very least




                    33/1 NRNB seems a big enough price not to be so clear on one race over the other? Would you guys not fancy him here, but fancy him in a Supreme?
                    You makes a good point Kev, I just think in the ballymore there are 3 horses that would be close to AIs level of quality. So to me the 33s would look less valuable than the 25s supreme.

                    And I’d be taking him 3 places and whilst I fancy 1of the big 3 may bomb out it seem far less likely than keskonrisk outperforming those above him in the market in the supreme other than AI

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                    • I would still fancy a bit of the 33s in the Ballymore but supreme is preferable. Especially with extra places!

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                      • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post
                        Bob favourite on the exchanges. It's marginal but he's favourite.
                        He's very popular on preview nights, probably the reason.

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                        • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post
                          Bob favourite on the exchanges. It's marginal but he's favourite.
                          As he should have been since the Lawlors even with GDMs win against the future 4 milers.

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                          • Originally posted by Might_Bite View Post

                            You makes a good point Kev, I just think in the ballymore there are 3 horses that would be close to AIs level of quality. So to me the 33s would look less valuable than the 25s supreme.

                            And I’d be taking him 3 places and whilst I fancy 1of the big 3 may bomb out it seem far less likely than keskonrisk outperforming those above him in the market in the supreme other than AI
                            Yeah I see.

                            I personally think Appreciate It would be a short priced, and genuine fav in the Ballymore. I genuinely don't think any of the 3 could beat him... in fact, I think if GDM got injured and Willie said they're going Ballymore with him, Bob Olinger would go Supreme as he's have a much better chance on winning.

                            It's actually, probably a really clever risk-free NRNB bet.... based on GDM getting injured. Even then it might not happen but their respective NRNB are way off.



                            Anyway, I think Keskonrisk is decent in either, and as a pure E/W play I see your point.

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                            • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post

                              As he should have been since the Lawlors even with GDMs win against the future 4 milers.
                              Haha. Very little love for GDM on the preview circuit, which surprises me - given many of these people often get it wrong I doubt GDM backers are too worried. I am going to wait until the day re GDM - he's not in the book yet, but I can see lots of people in the UK backing BMG, and BO seems to be far more popular than GDM at the moment. If that continues and he were to drift out to 4/1 then I'd definitely back him. I just missed the original price is all

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                              • Originally posted by charlie View Post

                                Haha. Very little love for GDM on the preview circuit, which surprises me - given many of these people often get it wrong I doubt GDM backers are too worried. I am going to wait until the day re GDM - he's not in the book yet, but I can see lots of people in the UK backing BMG, and BO seems to be far more popular than GDM at the moment. If that continues and he were to drift out to 4/1 then I'd definitely back him. I just missed the original price is all
                                Yep, certainly if you go by posts on here then much more love for Bob Olinger.
                                This is one race that i have got fortunate in, backing all 3 favs at nice prices.
                                Aint got a clue which ones best though!!
                                And not a 3 horse race imo.

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