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Cheltenham 2020 - Ante post bets

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  • Originally posted by Rhinestone_Cowboy View Post
    Think it’s just a time delay Q, been referred plenty and can cash out everything at the moment
    Either that or it could be dependent on an individuals use of cash out, as to whether they want to offer it to you or not. It's not compulsory so I suspect some punters probably have restrictions with it.

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    • I’ve got roughly 16 bets with cash out available at minute
      And 2 without- both referred others weren’t
      One a week old and one from yesterday.
      But placed bets in between that are cash out able.
      So who knows

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      • Backed defi du seuill
        King George and gold cup double
        See no massively obvious reason why it’s assumed he’ll stay over shorter this season
        Won over 2m and a half on soft ground on stiffish tracks against stayers.
        Just don’t make sense that lost in translation is so much shorter
        Already backed for king George 33-1ew few months back.

        Cue stable tour saying they’re aiming at the champion chase or Ryanair

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        • More stamina in defi breeding than kemboy from my untrained eye
          Surely connections must have seen kemboy improve and had a thought at least

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          • Just received me Paul Ferguson book today weekend sorted. Will order Mark Howard OJA over the weekend.

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            • Originally posted by quevega View Post
              Backed defi du seuill
              King George and gold cup double
              See no massively obvious reason why it’s assumed he’ll stay over shorter this season
              Won over 2m and a half on soft ground on stiffish tracks against stayers.
              Just don’t make sense that lost in translation is so much shorter
              Already backed for king George 33-1ew few months back.

              Cue stable tour saying they’re aiming at the champion chase or Ryanair
              No reason it's not possible but don't see it myself. Hobbs said “Most Triumph Hurdle winners end up wanting three miles but he’s got plenty of pace". I agree and think of him as a small speedy chaser type, that was able to beat stayers over 2m5f on soft ground on stiff tracks precisely because of his speed. Pre-Cheltenham they were weighing up Arkle or JLT. Post Cheltenham Hobbs was undecided about future plans but nominated next year’s Ryanair Chase or Champion Chase (if ground was testing) as options. I know connections only had two options in going up or down at Punchestown, but they opted to go down. All points to 2m/2m5f next season for me, but you could be right and he's a big price for GC.

              Re Lostintranslation, connections said the Gold Cup is the plan off the back of hacking up in a Grade 1 over 3m beating RSA winner comfortably. That, plus the comments and actions of DDS connections, explain the discrepancy in price
              Last edited by charlie; 20 September 2019, 02:22 PM. Reason: Lostintranslation comment

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              • 350-1 worth a stab
                Hobbs comment can be taken in many ways
                They went down in trip at punchestown largely to find out how useful he’d be at 2 and Hobbs also mentioned the lack of competition in that race vs the longer version.
                Can definitely see them going for king George
                Maybe amlyn Chase first

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                • Happy for you Liam :-)
                  Mine not received!!! :-(

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                  • Originally posted by quevega View Post
                    350-1 worth a stab
                    Hobbs comment can be taken in many ways
                    They went down in trip at punchestown largely to find out how useful he’d be at 2 and Hobbs also mentioned the lack of competition in that race vs the longer version.
                    Can definitely see them going for king George
                    Maybe amlyn Chase first
                    Great price to find out.

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                    • 365 usually have cash-out on all my antepost bets, but at the moment I have about half without cash-out.

                      That includes both a £1 AP Canadian and a £1 AP Heinz where I did have cash-out until the first one to run was Logician in the St Leger at 14/1. I hoped to have an increased cash-out position on those post-race, but they have got blanked out cash-out at the moment.
                      "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                      • Originally posted by quevega View Post
                        Backed defi du seuill
                        King George and gold cup double
                        See no massively obvious reason why it’s assumed he’ll stay over shorter this season
                        Won over 2m and a half on soft ground on stiffish tracks against stayers.
                        Just don’t make sense that lost in translation is so much shorter
                        Already backed for king George 33-1ew few months back.

                        Cue stable tour saying they’re aiming at the champion chase or Ryanair
                        I’m 99% sure connections said immediately after the JLT his whole year this year would revolve around winning the Ryanair.

                        I’d be stunned if they take him anywhere else. The race looks absolutely tailor-made for him.

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                        • Originally posted by Hurricane fly View Post
                          Bet365 have a horse called Zero Ten listed in their Champion Bumper market, 200/1

                          A Toronado descendant currently in Aus that has finished dead last in all three runs over 5f. Is there another horse by this name or is this the most left field request a bet ever seen?
                          Only one i can find is Storm Force Ten - owned by Robert waley-Cohen and trained by.
                          A M Balding, 4th to Peace and co in the Triumph hurdle trial at cheltenham - 24/01/2015.

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                          • Does anyone know what the plan is for Kilbracken Storm this season??

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                            • I haven't heard anything TKP but he didn't look a natural over fences so I'd be against him in open company.

                              He'd be of most interest to me earlier in the season over hurdles, the Yorkshire hurdle at Wetherby would seem a good fit to me.

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                              • Cheers FM, he had a stinker of a season last season both over fences & hurdles and has quickly become a forgotten horse as he doesn’t seem to be mentioned anywhere. The way he won the AB in 2018 you’d hope he still retains some potential

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