Cheltenham 2020 - Ante post bets

[The King Pimm]

I agree with your sentiments lads, I only offered to send information to HF personally as he stated he has already purchased the book but it may not arrive in time before he departs for his holiday tomorrow.

[Rhinestone_Cowboy]

Too early to worry about things like that, back what you think, and most importantly keep an eye on the odds off PP/ BFSB. And you wont go far wrong.

Or even if PP/BFSB have the horse priced up. I might be being overly cynical but I remember they only added Cilaos Emery to their Arkle market in January or something stupid and I see the two Ricci horses haven’t made their Supreme market just yet...surprise surprise

[Saxon Warrior]

If you’re copy hasn’t arrived by the time you leave tomorrow I’m happy to take pictures of the pages of his top 40 prospects and what’s app them you if you want to private message me your mobile number

Thank you KP. I know my wife will want us to be on the road by 1pm, so I will send my contact details if I am out of luck with the post.

[Middle_Of_March]

Anyone got any thoughts on Blackbow for this season?

I’m thinking he might be an Albert Bartlett type if he’s over his injury. Anyone know what best price any race is. The 14s with Skybet looks vaguely reasonable for a free bet.

[Hurricane fly]

Bet365 have a horse called Zero Ten listed in their Champion Bumper market, 200/1

A Toronado descendant currently in Aus that has finished dead last in all three runs over 5f. Is there another horse by this name or is this the most left field request a bet ever seen?

[callhimgamblor]

Not sure if anyone else here is but I will be at the showcase at Cheltenham on October 26th and that had a few good ones come out of it last year. Elixir De Nutz and Thomas Darby to name a couple. Will report back...

[Outlaw]

Bet365 have a horse called Zero Ten listed in their Champion Bumper market, 200/1

A Toronado descendant currently in Aus that has finished dead last in all three runs over 5f. Is there another horse by this name or is this the most left field request a bet ever seen?

Pretty sure it will be the horse who's been on the go with Emmet Mullins . 7 next year so won't be eligible anyway .

[Salubrious Chin]

Too early to worry about things like that, back what you think, and most importantly keep an eye on the odds off PP/ BFSB. And you wont go far wrong.

Spot on. Matt Tombs highlighted following the PP / BFSB prices when I was part of his syndicate. They are currently 7/2 and 15/4 respectively, as opposed to best price 6/1 elsewhere.

If CPS lives up to the hype I would struggle to see them go for the Ryanair when Mullins hasn't won the Champion Chase. Then again I didn't see the Vautour GC/Ryanair switch coming - I'd be looking to lay some off if targets aren't fairly clear and the price is right.

[robith]

As it’s Mark Howard’s livelihood to produce these books, I think it’s only fair that large amounts of information are not shared here. The outlay for the book is reasonable and has received many positive endorsements from posters who purchase it every year.

I concur, I think we had a similar discussion about closing a thread about the books last year

[charlie]

Its the sort of bet you do and then forget about till February next year, but I've added Any Second Now @ 22/1 to win any race with Hills.

I think its quite a straightforward bet. Even at this relatively early stage you would expect connections to aim him for a second tilt at Kim Muir. I am sure they already have a plan hatched to get his mark down to 145 or less. I really like the way he won the Kim Muir. Finished his race off powerfully and he's still relatively unexposed over the 3 mile trip. No reason to think he won't come back even better and stronger as an 8 year old, and he will probably secure the services of a top amateur like Derek O'Connor.

The main risk, other than the obvious of not qualifying or getting injured (just those 2 small things ), is Ted Walsh has said 'he might be a horse for a National one day', so missing Cheltenham all together would be in the back of your mind. It doesn't worry me too much though. He's only 8 next year so they may decide to give him some more experience over fences and aim him at the National when he is 9, like they did with Sunnyhillboy. I am quietly confident all roads lead to the Kim Muir. Ted Walsh has a nostalgic connection with the race having won it twice as a rider in the 70's on Castleruddery and Prolan.

[Quevega]

I doubt they’ll get his mark back down personally- but it’s possible
Rated 150 in Ireland now
Might need three bad runs
And the uk lad could easily give it 146 for laugh
Having said that. You’d have the Tuesday race to fall back on
So it’s not a bad call I reckon.

[Saxon Warrior]

Mention of the Kim Muir had me think of Cheltenham’s decision on replacing one of the current races with the Mares Chase for the March 2021 Festival.

Any news on when this choice would be made?

I was wondering whether the decision for the following year, would be made before or after the March 2020 Festival.

[charlie]

Mention of the Kim Muir had me think of Cheltenham’s decision on replacing one of the current races with the Mares Chase for the March 2021 Festival.

Any news on when this choice would be made?

I was wondering whether the decision for the following year, would be made before or after the March 2020 Festival.

I have no idea although I'm sure someone will. Will worry about that on March 15th!

[Quevega]

Just in case anyone not aware
B365
If you try and place a bet antepost and it gets referred to the traders.
If they accept it then cash out is disabled.
It gives you the option to refer it or not.
But once accepted it’s not available to cash out.
At least not for me on two bets out of last 6 or so I’ve made.
Just a heads up for anyone who’s not aware this might happen and would want the cash out option

[Rhinestone_Cowboy]

Just in case anyone not aware
B365
If you try and place a bet antepost and it gets referred to the traders.
If they accept it then cash out is disabled.
It gives you the option to refer it or not.
But once accepted it’s not available to cash out.
At least not for me on two bets out of last 6 or so I’ve made.
Just a heads up for anyone who’s not aware this might happen and would want the cash out option

Think it’s just a time delay Q, been referred plenty and can cash out everything at the moment