Cheltenham 2020 - Ante post bets

[billymag]

Champ has come back in looking huge but they havent decided yet, sounds like chasing is the most likely option although they havent ruled out the stayers. Birchdale chasing and Nicky felt strongly that he didnt stay the 3 of the AB so he will be looking at dropping him in trip

[BigChaang]

Had a great day at our Million in mind parade. I managed to have a drink with Nicky and asked about Dickie Diver and Pentland as requested. He really didnt see Dickie Diver being a 4 miler, in fact he wasnt keen on that idea at all, so Id bet him for the RSA if I was considering betting him. Pentland hill staying over hurdles, I got the impression Nicky thinks Fusil raffles might be showing him more though even if he has yet to produce it on the track. Hope that helps.

I asked him about Champagne platinum but he didnt really say anything, I think hes not that impressed and I would think hard before betting him antepos for anything. I forgot to ask about OK Coral so apologies whoever asked about that one.

Many thanks Billymag , Glad you had a good day .

[jono]

Cheers billy. Much appreciated

[ComplyOrDie]

Nice one Billy

[Native River]

Cheers Billy, good stuff! As mentioned in the CH preview I'm keeping an eye of Fusil at 25s for that and these comments are an encouraging start

[ComplyOrDie]

Added Brahma Bull 33/1 for the National Hunt Chase today.

[billymag]

Loads of stuff mentioned but the three I am taking out of the day are The Glancing Queen of Kingys, he said she was the best mare that he has trained. Shishkin who Nicky seemed keen to keep out of the limelight and Rathhill also of Nickys who is a bit of a forgotten horse.

[Kevloaf]

Added Brahma Bull 33/1 for the National Hunt Chase today.

I really like Brahma Bull (impossible not to as an open fan of the "Attitude era" ) - and connections make me take notice of them all....

which is why I do specifically remember Ruby Walsh and Willie Mullins saying that a track like Cheltenham wouldn't suit him.

You'll never find the footage, it was not high profile but it stuck with me because I thought about him as a chasing type.



However, this was the season before last I think, and tracks 'suiting' isn't something they'd know until they tried.... so let's hope that very random sound-byte I remember, is not very important!

[Middle_Of_March]

Loads of stuff mentioned but the three I am taking out of the day are The Glancing Queen of Kingys, he said she was the best mare that he has trained. Shishkin who Nicky seemed keen to keep out of the limelight and Rathhill also of Nickys who is a bit of a forgotten horse.

Interesting stuff - cheers

[charlie]

Another £5 free bet on Dickie Diver @ 25/1 for the RSA.

Whilst the more obvious and 'glamorous' types sit at the top of the market, I can't help but think 25/1 about Dickie Diver is a good bet, even at this early stage.

I like the way he stayed on in the Albert Bartlett and in how he hosed up at Chepstow over 2m4f having taken a fierce pull. Nicky was desperate to find a 3m novice hurdle to run him in pre-Cheltenham because he knows 3m is what he wants. It’s encouraging to hear Billymag’s comments on the other thread that Henderson is sure 4 miles isn't what he wants, which reduces the worry you'd have of him stepping up to 4m. He won his 3m P2P by 20L beating a subsequent winner and was purchased for £210k by JP. Everything about this horse screams 3m chaser. I’ve mentioned this on other posts but I was blown away by his size in the pre-parade ring before the Albert Bartlett and think this lightly raced 6 year old will excel if he takes to jumping fences and hopefully everything points towards a campaign geared towards the RSA.

Can't really go wrong with a free bet @ 25/1 anyway so happy days

[ComplyOrDie]

I really like Brahma Bull (impossible not to as an open fan of the "Attitude era" ) - and connections make me take notice of them all....

which is why I do specifically remember Ruby Walsh and Willie Mullins saying that a track like Cheltenham wouldn't suit him.

You'll never find the footage, it was not high profile but it stuck with me because I thought about him as a chasing type.



However, this was the season before last I think, and tracks 'suiting' isn't something they'd know until they tried.... so let's hope that very random sound-byte I remember, is not very important!

Cheers Kev, hadn't been aware of the quotes so that is interesting to hear.

As it is with Bet365 I'd be happy to leave it as is for now, with the option of cash out.

[billymag]

Nicky was totally dismissive of the 4 mile suggestion, but your always going to have the JP factor to consider, JP will get what he wants.

[Saxon Warrior]

Thanks Billymag. Any targets mentioned for Rathhill. He has already won a Novice Hurdle, so maybe Novice chasing over 2M/2M4F.

The Glancing Queen I presume would be aimed at the Mares Novice Hurdle.

Shishkin has won a Bumper, so Novice Hurdles over 2M/2M4F?

I am a big fan of Fusil Raffles, the horse had a difficult season but manager two runs of top quality, a romping Group 2 win and a comfortable Group 1 win. In the latter beating Fakir D by more than Pentland Hill. I think Fusil Raffles has the same OR as Pentland Hills after an interrupted season, at 152.

If any juvenile has a big chance in the Champion Hurdle then I am keen on that horse being Fusil Raffles.

[billymag]

He didnt mention a target for Rathhill other than chasing hes one i would keep a close eye on.

[billymag]

Personally ive backed Rathhill for the Arkle at 33/1 and any race at 22/1