Cheltenham 2020 - Ante post bets

[Quevega]

Mister Fisher chasing also after earlier saying he will be staying over hurdles.

His comments were encouraging too, as was the clip showing him jumping.

[Quevega]

not priced up for JLT yet.
If anyone can sort this it will be appreciated.

edit - yes he is, just missed it.
50's b365

[Kevloaf]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=avm_UR...ature=youtu.be

Angels breath looking mad fresh lol. But Nicky speaking very complimentary again about him

Charli Parcs

[TheEagleHasLanded]

Just started my 2020 festival spreadsheet and I’m a fan of using the weekly £5 free bet from SkyBet on the festival and have just put on
Brewin’upastorm - Arkle 20/1
Lisnagar Oscar - RSA - 33/1
Windsor Avenue - JLT - 50/1
Master Dino - Ryanair - 20/1

I’m aware the horses may not make it to the festival or run in these races but from a fb can’t help but like the look of this one

[Hurdles or chasing]

Few quotes from Jamie Codd in todays racing post -
Battleoverdoyen - "made an impressive winning debut over fences at Galway yesterday, is a monster. He was bought to be a chaser and hopefully he can go all the way to the top."
Delta work - "hes the most exciting staying horse coming through the ranks and it will be interesting to see where he slots in. You'd like to think he will make the grade and he certainly could be up to Gold cup grade this season. He looks great and is working well enough to suggest he can run a nice race on Saturday."
Malone road - "talk of him going to a winners bumper at down royal and if he does that would be exciting. I galloped him at Punchestown last week and he went well."
City Island "won at chelt and he goes novice chasing. Ive schooled alongside him and i think he'll be a top recruit to fences."

Envoi Allen "whatever race EA ends up in at Chelt (when asked what race he is looking forward to and why). I'll be very interested to chart his progression and see if hes a supreme horse or a ballymore horse. Hes probably the best horse ive ever ridden and he looks exciting."

Thanks for this. Some quote about about Envoi A

[TheEagleHasLanded]

What races do we think this horses will end up in at the festival

[Run4Home]

What races do we think this horses will end up in at the festival

Envoi - Ballymore
Malone - Supreme
Delta - Gold Cup
BOD - RSA
City Island - JLT?

[Quevega]

Listened to Final Furlong podcast this afternoon.
Went and had a shower half way through, took delivery of a new mattress, put it on bed and got rid of old mattress, backed and watched the dartnall horse at chepstow, and ......

Delargy was still talking about the same fucking horse when I came back.
Absolute Genius.

[Kevloaf]

I've always liked the idea of a related double... not the kind that get cancelled.... but ones where horses avoid another or a win changes anothers target etc....

Altior King George / Chacun Pour Soi QMCC is one...Or Cyrname King George / Altior QMCC for example....




One that's just popped into my head that I've not seen mentioned is from the Mullins stable tour.


Laurina and Melon are both confirmed as going novice chasing. I obviously don't need to introduce either, and there merits are discussed in the relevant threads.... I can't see either in an RSA though, whichever way we cut it. Partly due to the fact they were deemed CH horses (with Melon placing) and the other point being the yard already have some decent staying novice types in Carefully Selected and Next Destination.

So ruling the RSA out, is it likely they get split up? Mullins doesn't have as big a problem sending horses to the same race as people may think, but I feel fairly confident that IF these two end up being his best novice chasers... then they'll slot them in to the Arkle and JLT. There is only really Draconien from the top of my head for these races (although I'm sure there will be loads more) but nothing will have the Cheltenham Festival form of Melon or the hype of Laurina so...



Laurina (Arkle) Melon (JLT) is 314/1 with 365 only. Next best is slybet with 188/1

Melon (Arkle) / Laurina (JLT) - 168/1 with WillH - Only 142/1 with 365 if you can/want cash out.





I'm actually not that keen on either of these horses... so I've spent a surprising amount of time thinking about it
A chase debut win for both and I think I'll be ahead of the curve though?

[The King Pimm]

Got gubbed by Betway today and I don’t even match bet!! I use the account to genuinely bet but because they’re generally poor for value I only ever use them for their offers

[TheEagleHasLanded]

I've always liked the idea of a related double... not the kind that get cancelled.... but ones where horses avoid another or a win changes anothers target etc....

Altior King George / Chacun Pour Soi QMCC is one...Or Cyrname King George / Altior QMCC for example....




One that's just popped into my head that I've not seen mentioned is from the Mullins stable tour.


Laurina and Melon are both confirmed as going novice chasing. I obviously don't need to introduce either, and there merits are discussed in the relevant threads.... I can't see either in an RSA though, whichever way we cut it. Partly due to the fact they were deemed CH horses (with Melon placing) and the other point being the yard already have some decent staying novice types in Carefully Selected and Next Destination.

So ruling the RSA out, is it likely they get split up? Mullins doesn't have as big a problem sending horses to the same race as people may think, but I feel fairly confident that IF these two end up being his best novice chasers... then they'll slot them in to the Arkle and JLT. There is only really Draconien from the top of my head for these races (although I'm sure there will be loads more) but nothing will have the Cheltenham Festival form of Melon or the hype of Laurina so...



Laurina (Arkle) Melon (JLT) is 314/1 with 365 only. Next best is slybet with 188/1

Melon (Arkle) / Laurina (JLT) - 168/1 with WillH - Only 142/1 with 365 if you can/want cash out.





I'm actually not that keen on either of these horses... so I've spent a surprising amount of time thinking about it
A chase debut win for both and I think I'll be ahead of the curve though?

I like your thinking here KL, JLT betting looks especially open at the moment

[Run4Home]

Few bits from Gordon Elliott today

Envoi looks to be running over 2miles the weekend rather than the 2m6f race (I assume this means we won't see Andy Dufresne the weekend)
Samcro confirmed to go friday (sounded like Keith Don might ride)
Shattered love likely headed to Clonmel rather than Down Royal
No decision on Delta's race the weekend yet GE prefer for Ladbrokes
Apples Jade likely to go to Navan to start off

[Hurricane fly]

Just reread the first page

Probably should have taken that 9/1 on Klassical Dream

[Kevloaf]

Just reread the first page

Probably should have taken that 9/1 on Klassical Dream

Wasn't obvious he was staying over hurdles at that point, and Espoir Dallen was still with us.

Only a few points shorter now, I wouldn't beat yourself up about it ...
That would have been a case of being lucky rather than good

[Hurricane fly]

Klassical Dream would have battered Espoir D’Allen


Obviously no way to back that up but he would have