Cheltenham 2020 - Ante post bets

[jono]

Hadn’t really considered Thomas Darby over 2m 5f jono but you have me second guessing my initial thoughts. The weakness in the novice 2m hurdle division last season made my initial thoughts up for me.

Just a hunch from watching back his races Sean, though i'm probably in the minority. No doubt he will still be able to compete over 2 miles if they stay over that trip but I do think he'll be found to be just off the top level if that's the case. The most likely of the above to be cashing out but the change of trip for Brewin could well help.

Fully onboard the Carefully Selected 4 miler angle like you. Would have gone Any Race at 20's before Unitbet opened up at 33's with that slight RSA risk but too bigger difference. Mullins a little light on staying novice chasers though this year? Allaho and Carefully Selected alongside hoping that Next Destination can come back and kick on? This far out i'd absolutely love to see Allaho in the JLT and he'd be of huge appeal but not big enough at 16's and he could well go RSA. For me much depends on if and how Next Destination comes back to where Allaho and Carefully Selected end up.

[SeanRock]

Just a hunch from watching back his races Sean, though i'm probably in the minority. No doubt he will still be able to compete over 2 miles if they stay over that trip but I do think he'll be found to be just off the top level if that's the case. The most likely of the above to be cashing out but the change of trip for Brewin could well help.

Fully onboard the Carefully Selected 4 miler angle like you. Would have gone Any Race at 20's before Unitbet opened up at 33's with that slight RSA risk but too bigger difference. Mullins a little light on staying novice chasers though this year? Allaho and Carefully Selected alongside hoping that Next Destination can come back and kick on? This far out i'd absolutely love to see Allaho in the JLT and he'd be of huge appeal but not big enough at 16's and he could well go RSA. For me much depends on if and how Next Destination comes back to where Allaho and Carefully Selected end up.

Allaho’s size & stride says RSA to my early door eyes. He could be anything however!

Next Destination is definitely the joker in the pack alright!

[Faugheen_Machine]

Love it Jono - you have given me the urge to start watching the big festivals again today.

I love the Thomas Darby angle and it's almost risk free with the cash out. I might even do an Olly Murphy each way double at 25/1 and 40/1. If they both take to fences, they won't run in the same race at Cheltenham.

[Kevloaf]

Love it Jono - you have given me the urge to start watching the big festivals again today.

I love the Thomas Darby angle and it's almost risk free with the cash out. I might even do an Olly Murphy each way double at 25/1 and 40/1. If they both take to fences, they won't run in the same race at Cheltenham.

Was thinking about that myself FM.

I don't think he's a slam dunk to split them up if it did transpire they both should in the same race ... BUT it's still more likely they would be split up.

[BigChaang]

Alway's good to read your Post's Jono , I'm trying to be a bit more cautious in my approach this year, so.
Although i haven't backed Al Dancer in a single , got him in a Multi @ 33-1.
Thomas Darby -arkle , Brewinupastorm -j.lt. , . Interesting about the possible switch ,
Probably cover that some time too,. maybe Early doors too . Can't see past P.P. at the moment.

[charlie]

Jono that post has me buzzing and has prompted me to follow suit and get stuck into some research! Excellent work

[billymag]

Envoi Allen cut to 7/1 any race, the swines!!! Ive been topping up every day at 8/1 + hills boost!

[jono]

Glad to hear it's sparked everyone up

Envoi Allen cut to 7/1 any race, the swines!!! Ive been topping up every day at 8/1 + hills boost!

Still think there's plenty of value in the 7/1 then Billy? Seems a tad short to me...Trying to remember what price say Samcro would have been at this stage 2 years ago (unknown in september he was 10s any race) albeit EA has taken in the festival bumper so arguably achieved more

[Rhinestone_Cowboy]

Right now the golf's over back to business. Great write up Jono. At this still early stage I'm struggling to part with cash on those that dissapointed at the Festival last year. But I've followed you in on Early Doors for the Stayers and Thomas Darby for the JLT (All 365 and cash out)

Also backed Brewinupastorm for the Arkle and a small E/W double with TD. I remember my ears perking up when they mentioned dropping Brewinupastorm back in trip. Despite him performing admirably enough in the Ballymore can't help but feel they were a little disappointed based on how highly they rated him. He may not be top top class but it's possible the drop back in trip over the bigger obstacles brings about improvement.

Am already well involved with Carefully Selected and expect to continue topping up with free bets. Got most of my real money on with 365 for cash out at 25s but had a small top up at 33s with Unibet.

In case anyone hasn't noticed, a good spot by Morley Street regards the Galway Hurdle, Band of Outlaws opened up across the board at 6s but still available at 12s on Skybets NH specials.

[charlie]

Right now the golf's over back to business. Great write up Jono. At this still early stage I'm struggling to part with cash on those that dissapointed at the Festival last year. But I've followed you in on Early Doors for the Stayers and Thomas Darby for the JLT (All 365 and cash out)

Also backed Brewinupastorm for the Arkle and a small E/W double with TD. I remember my ears perking up when they mentioned dropping Brewinupastorm back in trip. Despite him performing admirably enough in the Ballymore can't help but feel they were a little disappointed based on how highly they rated him. He may not be top top class but it's possible the drop back in trip over the bigger obstacles brings about improvement.

Am already well involved with Carefully Selected and expect to continue topping up with free bets. Got most of my real money on with 365 for cash out at 25s but had a small top up at 33s with Unibet.

In case anyone hasn't noticed, a good spot by Morley Street regards the Galway Hurdle, Band of Outlaws opened up across the board at 6s but still available at 12s on Skybets NH specials.

Cheers for the info. Still up at 12/1

[charlie]

Any Race - Battleoverdoyen - Any Race 27/1 boosted with Hills

Have no problem putting his defeat at the festival behind me. I know it’s cliché to say ‘he’s a big chaser in the making’, but it was noticeable last season just how keen Elliott was to stress how his star novice’s ultimate future likes over fences. Novice hurdling was always a stepping stone and Gordon loves this horse. In an ante post market pretty much devoid of value, I think 25/1 plus in the any race market is superb, and it’s only 25/1 because he bombed out in the Ballymore.

I can see him winning a facile beginners chase at odds of 1/8, then be cut massively by the bookies for doing not much more than a schooling session. I wouldn’t be surprised if he then went down the Drinmore route over 2m4f before stepping up to tackle 3m at Leopardstown just after Christmas. I just think it’s worth taking a price now in the any race market.

[billymag]

Yeah its certainly getting on pretty short now. I had a max bet on Samcro any race before his hurdle debut and got it on in hills shop half they did at 12/1 and said I could have the other half at 10/1 think that will of been around August time. Envoi Allen has that course win under his belt which Samcro didnt so you could make a case for him being shorter in relation to that Samcro price but Ill be leaving it for now. Got a fair chunk on at 8.68/1 (10 points). Hoping like Samcro he is top notch and there's a healthy media debate about which his best target will be and there is a difference of opinions and I can then lay him for both, like Samcro and make some nice cash.

[Innoko]

Wow 63 pages already!

Excellent read as always and nice to pop in and see the forum ticking along very nicely in the summer months.

Nothing from me as of yet, started on the 3rd September last year.

May wait a little longer for the stable tours this year......

[charlie]

Malone Road at double the any race price makes more appeal at the moment IMO. I'm still blown away by the speed he showed at Punchestown.

[ComplyOrDie]

Malone Road at double the any race price makes more appeal at the moment IMO. I'm still blown away by the speed he showed at Punchestown.

I'm much more for the Malone Road price than Envoi Allen too. Not least because I have my nagging doubts about the bumper winners anyway, though if EA turned up in the Bartlett I may look twice.