Cheltenham 2020 - Ante post bets

[JackieMoon33]

Apologies I meant the tour in general. But thanks.

It’s an epic tour so I’ve only skimmed it so far. Of all the main horses there did not seem to be any injury concerns that weren’t already known.

[Humble Pie]

It’s an epic tour so I’ve only skimmed it so far. Of all the main horses there did not seem to be any injury concerns that weren’t already known.

Thanks JM much appreciated

[Kautostar]

Mister Coffey is with Henderson, somebody mentioned he might not be the other week

[Hurricane fly]

Main thing I saw/took from it was Tornado Flyer is staying over hurdles so I’ve cashed my Atkle bet at 5% loss

[JackieMoon33]

Mister Coffey is with Henderson, somebody mentioned he might not be the other week

I think everyone had said he is definitely with Henderson. Stable tour confirms it.

Mister Coffey
4g Authorized - Mamitador
Lady Bamford
1-
RPR 106b
Impressive in his bumper in the spring, he's massive and could win another but his schooling suggests hurdling. Exciting and has loads of ability.

[The King Pimm]

I still find it very strange that Harry Whittington buys Mister Coffee and sends it to Nicky Henderson to train?? Both Whittington and Henderson are close associates but why would he not train the horse himself?? Unless I’m reading old info and he no longer owns him??

[JackieMoon33]

I still find it very strange that Harry Whittington buys Mister Coffee and sends it to Nicky Henderson to train?? Both Whittington and Henderson are close associates but why would he not train the horse himself?? Unless I’m reading old info and he no longer owns him??

Harry Whittington bought the Mister Coffey originally and trained him for his bumper win. He then put him up for sale after his impressive victory. Tom Lacey completed the purchase for big money but the horse has now gone to Henderson and owned by Lady Bamford.

It’s very common for smaller trainers to buy store horses with a view to selling them for a sizeable profit.

[The King Pimm]

Thanks Jackie for clearing that up. Strange Tom Lacey didn’t request to train him when he sold him. He’s a decent trainer. I’m assuming Lady Bamford decided he was to go to Henderson. I’m finding it quite normal and confusing that lots of novice horse information online is not up to date which makes it’s tricky to keep up to speed.

[Humble Pie]

MARKET DISCREPANCIES

just over 4 months to go markets contracting and become more uniform as time decreases
Below is a list of the biggest price variables, if I’ve missed anything major then apologies and please feel free to rectify and add other horse

RACE. HORSE. WORSE ODDS. BEST. 365 ( cash out )

Supreme Malone Road. 8/1 PP. 12/1 Skyb. 8/1
Envoi Allen. 8/1 Lads. 14/1.PP. 8/1
Shishkin. 20/1 PP. 33/1 365. 33/1
Jon Snow. 25/1PP. 33/1 365. 33/1

Ballymore. Andy Dufresne. 16/1 Generally. 25/1 WH. 20/1
Blue Sari. 16/1 WH. 25/1 PP. 20/1

RSA. Allaho. 16/20 ‘s Gen 25/1 WH. 16/1
Carefully Selected. 20/1 PP. 33/1 Coral. 25/1

BMPER. Wide Receiver. 14/1 365. 25/1WH. 14/1

JLT. Samcro. 5/1 8/1 888 5/1
Reserve Tank. 8/1 WH. 14/1 PP. 10/1

[Scooby91]

MARKET DISCREPANCIES

just over 4 months to go markets contracting and become more uniform as time decreases
Below is a list of the biggest price variables, if I’ve missed anything major then apologies and please feel free to rectify and add other horse

RACE. HORSE. WORSE ODDS. BEST. 365 ( cash out )

Supreme Malone Road. 8/1 PP. 12/1 Skyb. 8/1
Envoi Allen. 8/1 Lads. 14/1.PP. 8/1
Shishkin. 20/1 PP. 33/1 365. 33/1
Jon Snow. 25/1PP. 33/1 365. 33/1

Ballymore. Andy Dufresne. 16/1 Generally. 25/1 WH. 20/1
Blue Sari. 16/1 WH. 25/1 PP. 20/1

RSA. Allaho. 16/20 ‘s Gen 25/1 WH. 16/1
Carefully Selected. 20/1 PP. 33/1 Coral. 25/1

BMPER. Wide Receiver. 14/1 365. 25/1WH. 14/1

JLT. Samcro. 5/1 8/1 888 5/1
Reserve Tank. 8/1 WH. 14/1 PP. 10/1

I get the idea. To expand on your idea


No idea how to myself, but one of the mods may know.

Might be useful to have a thread of screen shots of the oddschecker markets say once a month or so.
That would be easy reading To compare the odds/ moves throughout and especially at the end of the season for analysis.

May or may not help future years, or be of interest. It would certainly interest me. And give clarity on the likes of PP moves for elliot mullins etc...

[Humble Pie]

May / may not be of interest to others but I’ve always checked Irish markets v British
I’m a pen and paper man and not the best on keyboards !!!!

Hope the mods find it useful

[Can't Catch Me]

A Wave of The Sea is the first name on my Fred Winter watchlist (sure the market wont have missed him when it becomes available)

[BigChaang]

A Wave of The Sea is the first name on my Fred Winter watchlist (sure the market wont have missed him when it becomes available)

Yes C.C.M , won nicely at Down Royal on saturday , and the right trainer too. might be tempted myself .

[Scooby91]

A Wave of The Sea is the first name on my Fred Winter watchlist (sure the market wont have missed him when it becomes available)

Possibly have to bear in mind that hes not got / getting, the former coolmore horses this year. And guy cherel is all sold up on the juveniles that jp also gave him, to give him a good foundation.

The ammo he recieved last year was second to none. He hasn't that privilege this year. So a wave of the sea may be a triumph horse for him.

[Muswell]

Fairyhouse off tomorrow