Boodles Juvenile Handicap Hurdle (Fred Winter) 2019

[riccirich]

Coko beach could be a serious player in this, only two runs for elliott and second run was decent behind band of outlaws under considerate handling. Was also tipped up by eddie oleary at his hometown preview and the final positive is he's not being talked about by elliott at all, which is a definite positive as anyone who watched previous years previews will know. Its is a strategy that payed off for me last year with blow by blow, delta work etc while I ignored his nonsense anout de plotting shed and others. It looks like dallas des pictons is his big red herring for this year

[Kevloaf]

Coko beach could be a serious player in this, only two runs for elliott and second run was decent behind band of outlaws under considerate handling. Was also tipped up by eddie oleary at his hometown preview and the final positive is he's not being talked about by elliott at all, which is a definite positive as anyone who watched previous years previews will know. Its is a strategy that payed off for me last year with blow by blow, delta work etc while I ignored his nonsense anout de plotting shed and others. It looks like dallas des pictons is his big red herring for this year

Quite selective memory on horses GE has talked up winning/not winning?

I like Coko Beach, travelled really well on his first start then just disappeared. I added him this mornin'

[riccirich]

Quite selective memory on horses GE has talked up winning/not winning?

I like Coko Beach, travelled really well on his first start then just disappeared. I added him this mornin'

Maybe I could be forgetting something but from what I remember from last year de plotting shed and flawless escape were the two whose chances were really blown up by elliott and both ended up running poorly, while he clearly didnt want to speak about the likes of bbb, delta work, glenloe, veneer of charm and only gave short simple responses if asked about them.

[Faugheen_Machine]

Maybe I could be forgetting something but from what I remember from last year de plotting shed and flawless escape were the two whose chances were really blown up by elliott and both ended up running poorly, while he clearly didnt want to speak about the likes of bbb, delta work, glenloe, veneer of charm and only gave short simple responses if asked about them.

I'm not convinced reading too much into what has or hasn't been said is the way to go.

[riccirich]

I'm not convinced reading too much into what has or hasn't been said is the way to go.

I do agree with that normally but its just when you see horses of elliotts who seem to have really good chances on paper but he wont talk about them it seems odd and a lot of the time those seem to be the ones that run best

[Kevloaf]

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Friend or Foe has missed the cut in the Fred Winter.

[Scooby91]

How many by?

If he's 1st reserve ......

[Kevloaf]

How many by?

Don't know ... saw it here...

https://twitter.com/AntepostPunter

[Scooby91]

Don't know ... saw it here...

https://twitter.com/AntepostPunter

Ah that's fair enough. If he's 1st reserve which iv not a clue. Dogon will likely have a stone bruise. If he's not then that's fair enough. Ballloted out and money back

[cpfcpatriot]

I’ve gone in on Ciel de Neige as a back-up to Lethal Steps

[Kevloaf]

Yeah you'd think it'd be tight!

[Kevloaf]

MAZE RUNNER is last one in Fred Winter...

1 lb above Friend or Foe...

[Hurricane fly]

I think there are two or three at 10’12 behind Maze Runner though so would need all of them in and Friend or Foe to be top choice at 10’11

[Kevloaf]

No Surin...?

Perhaps Mares Novice Hurdle for her????

33/1 with WH to take the chance!

Or 25/1 with Lads NRNB... (28/1)

[Old Vic]