Stupid Questions

[Spectre]

PP will contact you if you've got a multi that has a sufficiently large enough liability for them to want to offer you a cash out option Tank.

[OffTheBridle]

Spectre
Just want to clarify on this.
I have a bet on since last April with PP. I am currently being offered a nice cash out on this bet. I was going to leave it on, take my chances on day 1 of the festival and see what my cash out would be after day 1. But I won't have any cashout option will I for this bet after day 1 unless PP contact me??

[Spectre]

As soon as PP go NRNB they'll remove all your cash outs OTB.

[Quevega]

Spectre
Just want to clarify on this.
I have a bet on since last April with PP. I am currently being offered a nice cash out on this bet. I was going to leave it on, take my chances on day 1 of the festival and see what my cash out would be after day 1. But I won't have any cashout option will I for this bet after day 1 unless PP contact me??

I'd imagine it's impossible to say for sure, as they change strategy all the time.
But they will have an alarm of some sort for big potential liabilities, so whether they contact you or put a cash out option back on the individual bet (or both) is anyone's guess.
But I'd say they'd very likely want to negotiate at some point if they think it's worth it.
They may not be arsed as their position could be covered in some other way.

[Spectre]

This is good point that's well worth making. The bookmakers have pulled their belts in this year. Prices have been much tighter, they've been very quick with taking cash out away, they've been more cautious pricing horses up quickly, and PP are later than usual going nrnb. There's probably a few more things I haven't thought of too.

With all that in mind I don't think it's possible to predict what they would or wouldn't do this year, and it's better to work from your own worst case scenario.

My stance on cashback it that the bookies only offer it because the bet you have is in your favour, and unless it was a substantial offer that was in my favour I wouldn't take it. We all have our own circumstances and think in different ways though, and I'd fully respect why someone would take a sum of money that could make a difference.

If you're in the position where the bookies are offering you cash out on a big bet, the hard work you put in over the previous months or even year has been well worth it. Faugheen Machine has been in that position for the last two seasons, so he is proving to everyone that the right strategy gives you a decent chance of landing the multiples. The key is a strategy that perms the right horses across different bets. Both skills in themselves. He's putting the right combinations together, and not just pot-shotting as he fancies them. It's also worth noting FM doesn't have an outrageous investment to land them.

[robith]

A large cash out value is an endorsement of a good bet.

I'd only ever take cash out if the amount offered would have an immediate, demonstrable positive effect on my life.

With the speed they have, you can't use it as insurance on injury unless you have an inside track, so my sole use of it is if I don't fancy a runner anymore. Personally don't think it can be relied on for wider than that

[The Tank]

PP will contact you if you've got a multi that has a sufficiently large enough liability for them to want to offer you a cash out optihome in the RSAon Tank.

Ha, we can dream, hey Spectre! I've never been particularly close to a life changer hitting, not expecting that to change this year.

Nah, have a few doubles/trebles with GDC as the first leg, so was wondering whether it was worth spending any time thinking about whether I'd cash out none/some/any of them if (when?) GDC smashes home in the RSA. If the cashout never re-appears, theres not point really really thinking about it. There's always laying off on the exchange to think about though i suppose.

[Atlantic Viking]

Think there's a few like myself who are relatively new to Cheltenham AP, last year was my first proper go at it and I think we all recognise that it went about as straightforward as it's ever likely to! This year so much more seems up in the air, so is this more like a normal year at this point, still well on the punters side or more up in the air than normal?

[Lbur4288]

Think there's a few like myself who are relatively new to Cheltenham AP, last year was my first proper go at it and I think we all recognise that it went about as straightforward as it's ever likely to! This year so much more seems up in the air, so is this more like a normal year at this point, still well on the punters side or more up in the air than normal?

This is my third year doing it properly and I think covid definitely helped the punters last year, I also think the novice divisions look potentially as good as anything in years and it's obviously difficult enough identifying a race target - never mind the winner.

[Quevega]

Think there's a few like myself who are relatively new to Cheltenham AP, last year was my first proper go at it and I think we all recognise that it went about as straightforward as it's ever likely to! This year so much more seems up in the air, so is this more like a normal year at this point, still well on the punters side or more up in the air than normal?

Last year ended up straightforward and a lot of the right types for antepost won.
But it was not an enjoyable ride with all the covid shit and elliot dead horse stuff. I'd say it was one of the worse run ins I can remember.

I'd say it's been steady this season, but this forum tends to be it's own little micro world sometimes and a lot of stuff is overblown and overdone.

And we've not had one fucking covid thread started yet or horse flu or brexit or any shit like that.
And still no fucking weather thread which runs these type of threads close.

Put this question in the right thread though mate

[robith]

Think there's a few like myself who are relatively new to Cheltenham AP, last year was my first proper go at it and I think we all recognise that it went about as straightforward as it's ever likely to! This year so much more seems up in the air, so is this more like a normal year at this point, still well on the punters side or more up in the air than normal?

The things complicating this year is the ground meant Mullins came out a bit later than usual, making it hard to gauge his novice hurdlers, and there are actually 2 pretty good UK novices...but they both seem suited to the same race.

Plus this is deffo the biggest army of novice chasers I can remember Mullins having

[Odin]

Ha, we can dream, hey Spectre! I've never been particularly close to a life changer hitting, not expecting that to change this year.

Nah, have a few doubles/trebles with GDC as the first leg, so was wondering whether it was worth spending any time thinking about whether I'd cash out none/some/any of them if (when?) GDC smashes home in the RSA. If the cashout never re-appears, theres not point really really thinking about it. There's always laying off on the exchange to think about though i suppose.

Just seen this, but I'm in a similar position where I could conceivably have several multiples running onto different horses from Thursday through Friday. In particular - Flooring Porter, Elimay and JWM are at the end of some nice looking multis. I'm working on the basis that I could get cashout with 365, but not with Paddy and I'm going to try and get some funds available to lay on exchange if I deem appropriate. I tend to do more in running lays in this type of situation rather than straight laying before the off - although that in itself cost me a decent wedge last year with Envoi falling at the fourth (if he'd been travelling well at the third last, I reckon my lays would have been matched)

[Big Bucks]

Related to my question in the general thread - Does placing a bet on oddscheker have a delay? Would it take a while to show up in open bets on the bookmaker website?

[Stormez]

Related to my question in the general thread - Does placing a bet on oddscheker have a delay? Would it take a while to show up in open bets on the bookmaker website?

No always shows up instantly for me

[Churchtownboy]

I have about 20 bets leftout of 150 in cash out on bet365 . Why is this? They are greying everything out