Stupid Questions

[BigChaang]

If the market is antepost and the horse is not going to run in the race then you have lost the bet

Thank's , O.T.F. ..

[Magpie]

What happens if you back a horse AP, does not get entered for race, but then supplemented for race. Pertaining to Fasttoslow..

[Odin]

What happens if you back a horse AP, does not get entered for race, but then supplemented for race. Pertaining to Fasttoslow..

No reason for the bet not to stand as normal as far as I'm concerned.
I suspect that this exact example is part of the reason why most AP bets aren't settled as losers until final decs

[Magpie]

Thanks Odin, that’s what I thought, just can’t remember happening with one of my AP bets before.

[HoldenTheReins]

I'm probably being very stupid but something that was said on a podcast that I don't understand with all the handicap rule changes is that as Anzadam isn't a novice so he only needs one more run for a mark. He's had 3 runs so one more run would be 4.

Is the below rule only applying to novices then?

'To be eligible to run in non novice handicaps you need 5 hurdle runs or 4 chase runs'

[Exar Essay]

I'm probably being very stupid but something that was said on a podcast that I don't understand with all the handicap rule changes is that as Anzadam isn't a novice so he only needs one more run for a mark. He's had 3 runs so one more run would be 4.

Is the below rule only applying to novices then?

'To be eligible to run in non novice handicaps you need 5 hurdle runs or 4 chase runs'

He needs 3 runs to get a mark. But 5 runs to participate in a handicap at Cheltenham.

Was the podcast specific to Cheltenham? Or just the general Irish/GB racing calendar? If the former, I’d say they’ve got it wrong and were referring to last year’s race conditions.

[HoldenTheReins]

He needs 3 runs to get a mark. But 5 runs to participate in a handicap at Cheltenham.

Was the podcast specific to Cheltenham? Or just the general Irish/GB racing calendar? If the former, I’d say they’ve got it wrong and were referring to last year’s race conditions.

It's from The Jumps Show at 3:19 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFGi...l=TheJumpsShow

He says he doesn't need the 5 runs for The County.

[DenmanSacre]

It applies to all horses as far as I'm aware. Nothing I can see in the rules to say it's just for novices.

[Exar Essay]

It's from The Jumps Show at 3:19 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFGi...l=TheJumpsShow

He says he doesn't need to the 5 runs for The County.

I’d say he’s wrong. I think he’s under the misapprehension that the 5 run rule only applies to novices. Because last year the 4 run rule only applied to novices.

[HoldenTheReins]

I’d say he’s wrong. I think he’s under the misapprehension that the 5 run rule only applies to novices. Because last year the 4 run rule only applied to novices.

Possibly he could be yeah, he does tend to be clued up though so I'm not sure.

[Exar Essay]

Possibly he could be yeah, he does tend to be clued up though so I'm not sure.

He could be privy to information we aren’t, I suppose.

[Craigy14]

He needs 3 runs to get a mark. But 5 runs to participate in a handicap at Cheltenham.

Was the podcast specific to Cheltenham? Or just the general Irish/GB racing calendar? If the former, I’d say they’ve got it wrong and were referring to last year’s race conditions.

Is it not just 5 just for open hurdle handicap, although not sure which races are novices handicaps now.

Edit - read rest of the thread he’s not a novice from his win in France.

[Exar Essay]

Is it not just 5 just for open hurdle handicap, although not sure which races are novices handicaps now.

Edit - read rest of the thread he’s not a novice from his win in France.

On a separate issue, that’s something think is really odd: the lack of a novice handicap hurdle. Given the race dynamics in recent years, I’d have made the Martin Pipe a novice handicap hurdle.

[HoldenTheReins]

On a separate issue, that’s something think is really odd: the lack of a novice handicap hurdle. Given the race dynamics in recent years, I’d have made the Martin Pipe a novice handicap hurdle.

Only the new turners and NHC are novice handicaps, no?

[Exar Essay]

Only the new turners and NHC are novice handicaps, no?

Yes. So 2 x handicaps specifically for novice chasers. But none for novice hurdlers.