Stupid Questions

[Istabraq]

thanks for the link. still haven't a feckin clue what it means but i now know it's nothing for me to worry about

Yeah, nothing that should keep us awake at night...

[Spectre]

Probably at the more respectable end of the stupid questions i've asked, but a couple of players at the club I support have had FA disciplinaries for betting on football. The amounts one of them wagered (about 70 football related bets for a total of 700 quid overall) don't appear big enough to have flagged anything up on that front and he had made a loss (case has been heard and he got a small fine), but it was brought to the attention of the FA by the bookie. I know there are a few on here who have previously worked for bookies, i'm just curious if they somehow cross reference pro sports persons against some sort of list? They must have 10's of 1000's of accounts, maybe 100's of 1000's for some. I've never been asked what I do for a living, so how do they know Joe Bloggs is a lower league football player?

Hopefully it wasn't Maguire and Shaw on the 0-5 Liverpool result.

[Dandrew99]

Hopefully it wasn't Maguire and Shaw on the 0-5 Liverpool result.

To be as bad as they were, they'd have had to be staking in the 5 figures surely?

[JamieSensible]

Can Ballyadam win the Arkle?

I think this is a really talented horse, but watching all of it's races back it seemingly can't jump a hurdle, never mind a fence. (This is why I think it's stupid)

I'm not sure what was wrong with him at Aintree but he doesn't seem to want more than 2m.

But there's a small part of me that thinks if he can learn to jump he has the pace to atleast challenge Appreciate It on good to soft ground.

[Istabraq]

Can Ballyadam win the Arkle?

I think this is a really talented horse, but watching all of it's races back it seemingly can't jump a hurdle, never mind a fence. (This is why I think it's stupid)

I'm not sure what was wrong with him at Aintree but he doesn't seem to want more than 2m.

But there's a small part of me that thinks if he can learn to jump he has the pace to atleast challenge Appreciate It on good to soft ground.

Debating the merits of any horse is never a stupid discussion, it's what this place is built for.
Personally I can't see it, he was a mile behind Appreciate It in the Supreme and would have been half a mile behind Blue Lord had he stood up, with at least one of those booked for the Arkle it would seem a very tall order for him to reverse form, then there are a mountain of others who could land in the race with chances.
I have to say from the moment I saw his underwhelming bumper debut he had the look of a 2024 Kim Muir winner to me...

[Spectre]

He looked a horse that needs a step up in trip all season to me. Surely they won't stick to two miles this time around.

[Supermaster]

This has been bugging me all week but I've been reluctant to post because of its "wise after the event" nature.
It's about some unaccountable (to my mind) high prices at a time in the season when there isn't a lot of form to go on in the early bumpers and maiden/novice hurdles
If a horse is odds on that means it's supposed to have a very good chance of winning and if it's a three figure price that means there's supposed to be a very good chance it will end up way down the field.

This Tuesday 26 Oct
13.20 Chepstow 2.5m maiden hurdle Welsby 2nd to odds on Mr Glass at 125/1
Afaik you can't get historic race cards with Racing Post but you can with the Sporting Life by simply typing in the date in the right place on the url line
https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/...gbb-race-div-1

The only horses who had winning racecourse form were Mr Glass and Welsby. Now Welsby had won a 4 runner ?3k Aintree bumper back in 2017
"tracked leader, pushed along into lead 2f out, going clear when reminder entering final furlong, pushed out, comfortably" at evens when trained by Hendo
The horse it beat into 2nd that day was McCain's Henry's Joy who went on to be rated as high as 122 over hurdles and once won a ?19k race
Transferred cheaply to Deborah Faulkner it wasn't seen again until finishing down the field in a ?5k 2m novices hurdle at Chepstow earlier this month. Ok the horse must have had some issues to keep it off the course for so long but after such a long lay off a quiet run was to be expected first time. It was 150/1 that day.
But the form of that 2017 bumper win put Welsby in with a good chance in the 26 Oct race (imo) which apart from the favourite it was a pretty weak race.

(Oh it's a Hendo reject so no good)

18 minutes later
13.38 Bangor 2m1f novices hurdle Heritier 3rd 150/1 to Go Dante at 11/10
https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/...gbb-race-div-1

Now there was more substantive form in this race but the others with winning form (or good placed form) were all at shorter prices. Heritier had finished last in a novice hurdle earlier this month won by Geromino after being transferred from France where it had won a ?7K bumper on g/s and 2nd in another ?7k bumper on VSft. Two of the others with winning form were at 11/1. The two French race descriptions were:
Dwelt as stalls opened, soon recovered to race prominently, led after 3f, pushed along 3f out, ridden and extended lead over 1f out, stayed on strongly
Led after 1f, 3l clear at halfway, shaken up 3f out, driven 2f out, reduced advantage over 1f out, headed final 175yds and no extra

(Oh it's French so no good)

Ok there were some doubts about these horses but I don't think there was enough certainty about that doubt to think they had no chance in these quite ordinary early NH season proper novice/maiden hurdles.

[Diamond Geezer]

On Oddschecker how do you track when the price on a horse changed i.e on what day and what time.?

[DeeBee]

On Oddschecker how do you track when the price on a horse changed i.e on what day and what time.?

Think it only works on desktop site.. if you click on horses name in the market should open a new page. If you are on a mobile most browsers allow you to force desktop site

[Diamond Geezer]

Think it only works on desktop site.. if you click on horses name in the market should open a new page. If you are on a mobile most browsers allow you to force desktop site

Thanks, works as long as you view all odds first (the second page),

[darlojim]

I am on desktop site, clicking on horses name just brings up a narrow window on the right hand side with the odds at each bookmaker displayed.

You need to go to the desktop version.. I assume your using mobile?

Go to the top left where you can choose the sport and scroll all the way down and it should say 'go to desktop site'

Do that and then click the horses name.

**Just saw you said you're already on desktop version

Theres a little tab saying "all history"

Click that if you want to show all odds movement for that horse.

[Goldentouch]

Question 1: What happens if I have a non runner in my ante post Yankee? Is the whole bet a loser?

Question 2: I did a Lucky 15 with two horses in the same race (was ill and not paying attention). Ended up having just 1 winner, what happens with the bet?

[Stormez]

Question 1: What happens if I have a non runner in my ante post Yankee? Is the whole bet a loser?

Question 2: I did a Lucky 15 with two horses in the same race (was ill and not paying attention). Ended up having just 1 winner, what happens with the bet?

1. It will become doubles & a treble on the remaining horses.

2. I’m surprised they took that bet off you!

[Faugheen_Machine]

Question 1: What happens if I have a non runner in my ante post Yankee? Is the whole bet a loser?

Question 2: I did a Lucky 15 with two horses in the same race (was ill and not paying attention). Ended up having just 1 winner, what happens with the bet?

1. You lose 7 of the 11 bets, basically turns into a Trixie.
2. You'll get paid out as a winning single.

[Goldentouch]

1. You lose 7 of the 11 bets, basically turns into a Trixie.
2. You'll get paid out as a winning single.

Thanks for responding - so to confirm, I will just have a single for the stake?