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[Faugheen_Machine]

He was 7/2 before the race best price I had a look on oddschecker

Bookies barely moved him

He was 9/2 with Hills on the Friday night / Saturday morning and 4/1 across the board Saturday evening. They just started cutting him before he even ran.

[Dandrew99]

CPS is definitely splitting opinion. I thought he was nothing more than OK. The price cuts afterwards were OTT and didn't warrant being cut from 9/2 to 3/1, imo.

Game of opinions innit!

I think his price cut was more to do with that Altior didn't run rather than how CPS did run.

Those two are obviously the stars of the 2m chasers, after Altior didn't run then anything other than him flopping was going to be a positive. I also think that people seem to always underestimate Politologue and PTKO.

If a sexier horse than Politologue had won the previous seasons champion chase and followed up in the Tingle Creek, he'd be the one that was 3/1. Could say similar for the previous seasons Arkle winner who came out and won the Schloer.

[Run4Home]

If a sexier horse than Politologue had won the previous seasons champion chase and followed up in the Tingle Creek, he'd be the one that was 3/1. Could say similar for the previous seasons Arkle winner who came out and won the Schloer.

Yeah think a very fair point on Polit
In most peoples heads I think when a class field he just comes up short against on most occasions - Min, Altior , Cyrname and Defi a few times at his best. So you always think something will beat him ie a CPS or Altior but a solid ew horse no doubt

[FinalFurlong91]

He was 9/2 with Hills on the Friday night / Saturday morning and 4/1 across the board Saturday evening. They just started cutting him before he even ran.

Yep its a joke

They are doing it regularly this season

it ends in horses like monkfish halving in price for winning a beginners chase and ending up the sort of price you'd expect after winning a grade 1

[Middle_Of_March]

I presume you have backed the horse, so you are going all out to be picky over words. The comments were in the context of what he had to beat which was a terrible jumper and a couple of 100/1 shots.

Okay you might not approve of my choice of words, but you are actually the one who is trying to see something that wasn't there. So you end up using words like 'stupid' and 'nonsense' to try and make yourself feel better and in some way superior. It is shame you couldn't just disagree.

Whether I have backed the horse or not, that’s not the point.


I think he’s too short right now personally BUT to say he couldn’t have been more unimpressive was a silly statement from yourself. And now you’re backtracking because you realise it’s way OTT and just a little bit foolish.

It’s fine.. let’s move on.

[Lobos]

The only current Fav I haven't backed is Appreciate It. He will make a superb chaser but I think things will happen to fast for him over hurdles and he'll find one or two going by him late on as he did this year. Giant horse and relentless galloper. If he is to have a chance of winning any race next year then it'll be the Albert but I don't think Mullins will entertain him running in that.

[Kevloaf]

The only current Fav I haven't backed is Appreciate It. He will make a superb chaser but I think things will happen to fast for him over hurdles and he'll find one or two going by him late on as he did this year. Giant horse and relentless galloper. If he is to have a chance of winning any race next year then it'll be the Albert but I don't think Mullins will entertain him running in that.

You could have been on him at 16/1 or double figures at least, for a horse I know you think a lot of (and given the rest of your bets) I am surprised you're so against him.

However, all that said, at current best price 7/1 (with PP again now funnily enough) he is definitely opposible.

[Lobos]

You could have been on him at 16/1 or double figures at least, for a horse I know you think a lot of (and given the rest of your bets) I am surprised you're so against him.

However, all that said, at current best price 7/1 (with PP again now funnily enough) he is definitely opposible.

I do like him a lot but just think chasing is his game. I just don't think he'll make a top Hurdler. Was surprised he didn't go straight over fences. If Mullins didn't have as many good novice Chasers this year, I think he would have.

[Kevloaf]

I do like him a lot but just think chasing is his game. I just don't think he'll make a top Hurdler. Was surprised he didn't go straight over fences. If Mullins didn't have as many good novice Chasers this year, I think he would have.

He still managed to place in the Champion Bumper, bar one horse he's put in a pretty strong performance?

I'm just surprised that you wouldn't want him onside this year as I know you'll be 'all over him' next year

[Lobos]

He still managed to place in the Champion Bumper, bar one horse he's put in a pretty strong performance?

I'm just surprised that you wouldn't want him onside this year as I know you'll be 'all over him' next year

I noticed he was 33/1 for the 2022 RSA with Hills. Think I'll be brave and wait until after the Fez to back him.

[Kevloaf]

I noticed he was 33/1 for the 2022 RSA with Hills. Think I'll be brave and wait until after the Fez to back him.

He'll be a third of that come late March

I came across it during my week off from here, was 50/1 then.

You backed him for the RSA this season at that price didn't you? Get that diary updated

[Quevega]

The only current Fav I haven't backed is Appreciate It. He will make a superb chaser but I think things will happen to fast for him over hurdles and he'll find one or two going by him late on as he did this year. Giant horse and relentless galloper. If he is to have a chance of winning any race next year then it'll be the Albert but I don't think Mullins will entertain him running in that.

Even though I have backed him. For both races.
I kind of agree with your train of thought, on this one. And he'll be 7
So I have booked into the Doctor's for first thing in the morning.

[jono]

Regarding Chacun Pour Soi. It was without doubt the least impressive performance i've seen from him. Even his defeat to A Plus Tard last Christmas, he travelled through the race like so strongly, with his jumping just how you'd want to see for a 2miler. That said I really wouldn't be judging his chances in the Champion Chase off that.

It was slightly surprising he took in the Hilly Way, but it made sense given how his seasonal debut turned out last season. He'll come on plenty for it (usual line given by everyone of course but his past 2 seasons, he has come on hugely for his second run) and for me the most important thing for connections would have been to just get him round. It's 21 days until his likely run at Christmas. By far the shortest gap he has had between races in his career over here (previously 53 days and what would have been 39 days last season bar the stone bruise). They clearly have to campaign the horse carefully.

I do agree he's always been short. But I wouldn't take any negatives after the weekend myself.
We saw him out, complete and win. That's the only thing i'm taking out the race, and a positive for his chance in March.

[Lobos]

He'll be a third of that come late March

I came across it during my week off from here, was 50/1 then.

You backed him for the RSA this season at that price didn't you? Get that diary updated

Nope. Waiting for the 66's after he finishes 4th in the Ballymore....

[Lobos]

Even though I have backed him. For both races.
I kind of agree with your train of thought, on this one. And he'll be 7
So I have booked into the Doctor's for first thing in the morning.

Wow, Q agreeing with me.....That's it, I'm retiring from the FJ forum. My life is complete.