Cheltenham Handicap Shortlists

[Kevloaf]

Not a lot changed from the posts back on page 9 regarding Gelnloe for me...

I don't have the fears about him having another couple of runs, it isn't like Elliott is unaware of the rules, he'll have a plan if he wants him there in that race.

I have added again at 40/1 for the 4 miler in case I am wrong, as he won't be anywhere near that price (as has already been highlighted).



I think I will add 1.5 pts e/w now with WH at 22/1 as a bit of a gamble. The NRNB prices aren't going to be much over 12/1 and I WANT 16/1 really NRNB.

Should probably wait for another entry

[jono]

Obviously made a bad mistake 4 out. And was untidy at a couple earlier on but apart from that I saw no major issue with Glenloe's jumping today. Travelled through the race (until the mistake) well considering the trip wouldn't have suited and the conservative ride

[thistlecracker]

Not a lot changed from the posts back on page 9 regarding Gelnloe for me...

I don't have the fears about him having another couple of runs, it isn't like Elliott is unaware of the rules, he'll have a plan if he wants him there in that race.

I have added again at 40/1 for the 4 miler in case I am wrong, as he won't be anywhere near that price (as has already been highlighted).



I think I will add 1.5 pts e/w now with WH at 22/1 as a bit of a gamble. The NRNB prices aren't going to be much over 12/1 and I WANT 16/1 really NRNB.

Should probably wait for another entry

Is it the Kim Muir your adding at 22’s ?

[Kevloaf]

I have yeah.

The smarter move would be wait and see if he gets an entry in the next few weeks, as he needs two more before he can run...

[archie]

Similar to Battleoverdoyen, I think there's a danger that people are thinking that Gordon will be making the Glenloe decision. If you could hack Frank Berry's (and Eddie O'Leary's) electronic messaging systems....

[Viking Flagship]

Was the first horse mentioned in this thread by JackieMoon but I'd just like to say that I've had my first bet in the Ultima... Talkischeap at 25/1 with B365. A general 16/1 chance I wanted to get in there before 365 go NRNB and the price goes.

I've liked his 2 performances this season against LBAR and Lostintranslation, staying on well on both occasions over intermediate trips. Already a 3m winner over hurdles there's good reason to suspect there will be more improvement to come when stepped up in trip. Alan King has won this race a couple of times in the past, once with a novice (Fork Lightning) and his other winner (Bensalem) also went for this race as a novice when looking the likely winner before falling 2 out - he then came back and won it the following year. I have toyed with the any race markets for this horse but quite frankly this is the race I'd fancy him for so I'm happy to take the bigger price and hopefully have a cash out fallback if he looks to be heading elsewhere. He needs 1 more run and is entered at Donny on Wednesday in a decent 3m novice chase and a big run could see them tempted by the RSA - but I'm hoping for a solid if unspectacular performance.

[JackieMoon33]

Was the first horse mentioned in this thread by JackieMoon but I'd just like to say that I've had my first bet in the Ultima... Talkischeap at 25/1 with B365. A general 16/1 chance I wanted to get in there before 365 go NRNB and the price goes.

I've liked his 2 performances this season against LBAR and Lostintranslation, staying on well on both occasions over intermediate trips. Already a 3m winner over hurdles there's good reason to suspect there will be more improvement to come when stepped up in trip. Alan King has won this race a couple of times in the past, once with a novice (Fork Lightning) and his other winner (Bensalem) also went for this race as a novice when looking the likely winner before falling 2 out - he then came back and won it the following year. I have toyed with the any race markets for this horse but quite frankly this is the race I'd fancy him for so I'm happy to take the bigger price and hopefully have a cash out fallback if he looks to be heading elsewhere. He needs 1 more run and is entered at Donny on Wednesday in a decent 3m novice chase and a big run could see them tempted by the RSA - but I'm hoping for a solid if unspectacular performance.

He already has a chase mark of 145 and it did not get increased after La Bague Au Roi won at Kempton. As Lonstintranslation has won since, he could he rerated potentially this week.

He is entered at Donny on Wednesday along with some reasonable horses including OK Corral and Secret Investor. Hopefully they won’t damage his mark in that race.

[SeanRock]

Have requested a price from 365 on City Island with a view to the Martin Pipe...

I originally had requested a Ballymore price but a handicap is probably more likely!

[Viking Flagship]

Interesting to see Flawless Escape entered up back over hurdles at Clonmel on Thursday after an unsuccessful start to life over fences. Could be one for the Martin Pipe again? Well backed favourite for it last year. Isn't there a trend in the handicaps about horses being fancied and flopping, to then return the following year and win - I certainly think it's happened 2 or 3 times in the Grand Annual.

Anyway, to add to the interest, the 2016 & 2017 winners of this race at Clonmel followed it up with 3rd and 6th in the Martin Pipe, so it might be a race to keep an eye on. Commander of Fleet and Dunvegan 2 other very notable entries and it wouldn't surprise me at all to see CoF end up in the MP race.

[doctorwu]

Interesting to see Flawless Escape entered up back over hurdles at Clonmel on Thursday after an unsuccessful start to life over fences. Could be one for the Martin Pipe again? Well backed favourite for it last year. Isn't there a trend in the handicaps about horses being fancied and flopping, to then return the following year and win - I certainly think it's happened 2 or 3 times in the Grand Annual.

Anyway, to add to the interest, the 2016 & 2017 winners of this race at Clonmel followed it up with 3rd and 6th in the Martin Pipe, so it might be a race to keep an eye on. Commander of Fleet and Dunvegan 2 other very notable entries and it wouldn't surprise me at all to see CoF end up in the MP race.

Interesting entry VF. He's very well thought of in the Mullins yard. I can see Mullins plotting a nice course for FE.
Ive got him "any race" with Hills @27.6/1

[Quevega]

Interesting entry VF. He's very well thought of in the Mullins yard. I can see Mullins plotting a nice course for FE.
Ive got him "any race" with Hills @27.6/1

gordon elliott

[doctorwu]

gordon elliott

Apologies. Cant cope with the level of racing information today.
Tipped up in GE 5 to follow. I Knew it was somewhere.

[Viking Flagship]

Interesting entry VF. He's very well thought of in the Mullins yard. I can see Mullins plotting a nice course for FE.
Ive got him "any race" with Hills @27.6/1

Me too doc

[archie]

Apologies. Cant cope with the level of racing information today.
Tipped up in GE 5 to follow. I Knew it was somewhere.

I wouldn't have thought that the best handicap plot horses would be on a 5 to follow list.

[Viking Flagship]

To be honest I think they saw him as a very promising novice chaser at the start of the season. Likely a plan change and back to hurdling where he would appear to remain well handicapped.