Arkle/Marsh/RSA/NH Chase - Novice Chasers 2021 (new)

[Quevega]

The sad demise of Easywork has forced a rethink for a lively E/W shot and Ive found Pym for the RSA.

Dead already.
Not a novice.
Did your graph not mention this ?

[Outlaw]

Dead already.
Not a novice.
Did your graph not mention this ?

Q with a knockdown in round 1 there.

[Bigfish]

Ok I saw it run in an intermediate chase against If The Cap Fits and thought It was still novice. I don't get the Dead already bit from you. Such fun.

[Bigfish]

I'm on Monkfish at 8s so just looking for a value E/W play in multlifolds now.

[Quevega]

Ok I saw it run in an intermediate chase against If The Cap Fits and thought It was still novice. I don't get the Dead already bit from you. Such fun.

It was the mention of Easywork (RIP) and the "lively ew shot" part

[FinalFurlong91]

Dead already.
Not a novice.
Did your graph not mention this ?

Out of knowhere with the mike tyson upper cut

[Bigfish]

Ali shuffle and rope a dope counter

[Skysthelimit]

One of my first posts so go gentle but would be interested in people's thoughts about a horse that I feel is going under the radar for the RSA. The horse is Shan Blue and widely available at 25/1 in a market where only Monkfish has really impressed. I assume the decs for the Feltham will come out in the next couple of days but interestingly Hills have priced this up and have him as favourite. Stable is in great form and could see him running a big race over Xmas.

PTP winner and has some decent bumper and hurdles form (3rd in his bumper to Chantry House, fell when he looked like he would beat Sevarano at Newbury and 2nd to Shiskin albeit well beaten). Given a typical Skelton hold up ride in Ballymore and never really put in race (100/1), jumped well and plugged on up the hill.

Skelton has always thought he would be a better chaser and jumped really well first time out and won in a canter. It's his last run though that really impressed me and visually impressive. Jumped as well as any novice (apart from Monkfish) I've seen this season and beat Snow Leopardess by 16l giving her 13lb. She franked the form next time out albeit only off 126.

Rated in the top 10 novice chasers by Timeform (148p) and RSA seems obvious race to avoid Envoi Allen in Marsh. With all the good judges on here I'm surprised he hasn't been mentioned more. Looks really good value at 25/1 each way with the potential to shorten significantly.

Interested in what I'm missing as thinking about going in again. If he got a decent mark he could perhaps go for one of handicaps and stable very good at laying one out for a race. Just think he's potentially better than that.

[Birds Nest]

Dead already.
Not a novice.
Did your graph not mention this ?

And he also ran in last years rsa too...

[taylorch1990]

One of my first posts so go gentle but would be interested in people's thoughts about a horse that I feel is going under the radar for the RSA. The horse is Shan Blue and widely available at 25/1 in a market where only Monkfish has really impressed. I assume the decs for the Feltham will come out in the next couple of days but interestingly Hills have priced this up and have him as favourite. Stable is in great form and could see him running a big race over Xmas.

PTP winner and has some decent bumper and hurdles form (3rd in his bumper to Chantry House, fell when he looked like he would beat Sevarano at Newbury and 2nd to Shiskin albeit well beaten). Given a typical Skelton hold up ride in Ballymore and never really put in race (100/1), jumped well and plugged on up the hill.

Skelton has always thought he would be a better chaser and jumped really well first time out and won in a canter. It's his last run though that really impressed me and visually impressive. Jumped as well as any novice (apart from Monkfish) I've seen this season and beat Snow Leopardess by 16l giving her 13lb. She franked the form next time out albeit only off 126.

Rated in the top 10 novice chasers by Timeform (148p) and RSA seems obvious race to avoid Envoi Allen in Marsh. With all the good judges on here I'm surprised he hasn't been mentioned more. Looks really good value at 25/1 each way with the potential to shorten significantly.

Interested in what I'm missing as thinking about going in again. If he got a decent mark he could perhaps go for one of handicaps and stable very good at laying one out for a race. Just think he's potentially better than that.

Welcome to the forum and a great post. I totally agree with you I like the horse a lot. Like you said he was a decent enough hurdler but chasing is definitely his game. He's a brilliant jumper and for me the best of the British so far. I can't get my head around how he's twice the price of The Big Breakaway. I believe there meant to run against each other in the Kauto Star and I think he'll win and go possibly single figures.

[Jorvik]

One of my first posts so go gentle but would be interested in people's thoughts about a horse that I feel is going under the radar for the RSA. The horse is Shan Blue and widely available at 25/1 in a market where only Monkfish has really impressed. I assume the decs for the Feltham will come out in the next couple of days but interestingly Hills have priced this up and have him as favourite. Stable is in great form and could see him running a big race over Xmas.

PTP winner and has some decent bumper and hurdles form (3rd in his bumper to Chantry House, fell when he looked like he would beat Sevarano at Newbury and 2nd to Shiskin albeit well beaten). Given a typical Skelton hold up ride in Ballymore and never really put in race (100/1), jumped well and plugged on up the hill.

Skelton has always thought he would be a better chaser and jumped really well first time out and won in a canter. It's his last run though that really impressed me and visually impressive. Jumped as well as any novice (apart from Monkfish) I've seen this season and beat Snow Leopardess by 16l giving her 13lb. She franked the form next time out albeit only off 126.

Rated in the top 10 novice chasers by Timeform (148p) and RSA seems obvious race to avoid Envoi Allen in Marsh. With all the good judges on here I'm surprised he hasn't been mentioned more. Looks really good value at 25/1 each way with the potential to shorten significantly.

Interested in what I'm missing as thinking about going in again. If he got a decent mark he could perhaps go for one of handicaps and stable very good at laying one out for a race. Just think he's potentially better than that.

You should post more often, first of all! Tbh it's not one i've paid much attention to for some reason but now that I have, I wouldn't put you off at all. Some nice little form lines via Champagne Well. The concern, as ever, is of course the Irish challenge. Now Easywork has sadly left us, i'm a big pencilfulloflead fan for one. But 4 of the last 5 winners have been British, so why not?!

[delsie777]

I have backed ONTHEROPES for the NH Chase after his second to Monkfish. I see he's entered over 3 miles over Christmas - is it still a requirement for horses to have completed over 3 miles to get into the NH Chase? I thought we may see Paul T nursing it around to get him qualified for Patrick - bit like Carefully Selected last year. Although you can't be sure it's the target, he does seem a massive price. Proper antepost punt because if it was confirmed as his target he would be close to single figures without leaving his box.

[Kevloaf]

I have backed ONTHEROPES for the NH Chase after his second to Monkfish. I see he's entered over 3 miles over Christmas - is it still a requirement for horses to have completed over 3 miles to get into the NH Chase? I thought we may see Paul T nursing it around to get him qualified for Patrick - bit like Carefully Selected last year. Although you can't be sure it's the target, he does seem a massive price. Proper antepost punt because if it was confirmed as his target he would be close to single figures without leaving his box.

It is that they have to have placed (top 4) over 2m7f - I think


To be fair, there is no real reason for them not to go for the win on merit.... if he's going to be winning it and the Patrick Mullins ride, we would probably want a 1 on the way....

[YoungHustler]

One of my first posts so go gentle but would be interested in people's thoughts about a horse that I feel is going under the radar for the RSA. The horse is Shan Blue and widely available at 25/1 in a market where only Monkfish has really impressed. I assume the decs for the Feltham will come out in the next couple of days but interestingly Hills have priced this up and have him as favourite. Stable is in great form and could see him running a big race over Xmas.

PTP winner and has some decent bumper and hurdles form (3rd in his bumper to Chantry House, fell when he looked like he would beat Sevarano at Newbury and 2nd to Shiskin albeit well beaten). Given a typical Skelton hold up ride in Ballymore and never really put in race (100/1), jumped well and plugged on up the hill.

Skelton has always thought he would be a better chaser and jumped really well first time out and won in a canter. It's his last run though that really impressed me and visually impressive. Jumped as well as any novice (apart from Monkfish) I've seen this season and beat Snow Leopardess by 16l giving her 13lb. She franked the form next time out albeit only off 126.

Rated in the top 10 novice chasers by Timeform (148p) and RSA seems obvious race to avoid Envoi Allen in Marsh. With all the good judges on here I'm surprised he hasn't been mentioned more. Looks really good value at 25/1 each way with the potential to shorten significantly.

Interested in what I'm missing as thinking about going in again. If he got a decent mark he could perhaps go for one of handicaps and stable very good at laying one out for a race. Just think he's potentially better than that.

I backed him the other day after the sad Easywork news. His jumping has been impressive and I think his RSA price is wrong in comparison to his price in the Kauto Star where he is favourite. His price will contract after the KS so wanted to get him onside now with potential cash out.

[Pendil]

I have backed ONTHEROPES for the NH Chase after his second to Monkfish. I see he's entered over 3 miles over Christmas - is it still a requirement for horses to have completed over 3 miles to get into the NH Chase? I thought we may see Paul T nursing it around to get him qualified for Patrick - bit like Carefully Selected last year. Although you can't be sure it's the target, he does seem a massive price. Proper antepost punt because if it was confirmed as his target he would be close to single figures without leaving his box.

Ontheropes has already qualified for the NHC having finished 4th last year in a 3ml 1f chase. He is ante post favourite for the PP handicap chase on 27th Dec worth over €80k to the winner. So I don't see him being nursed around