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Arkle/Marsh/RSA/NH Chase - Novice Chasers 2021 (new)

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  • Backing anything antepost for the Festival trained by the Tizzards, should be by exception.

    "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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    • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post
      Backing anything antepost for the Festival trained by the Tizzards, should be by exception.
      Most overrated trainer in the game. Been saying it for years.

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      • Originally posted by Hurdles or chasing View Post
        Court Maid would take some beating if they decide to go here. She has been given 12lbs for her win at the weekend over 3m5 that brings her up to 152. With her 7 pounds allowance, qualified and her stamina proven I'm surprised she's still 16s and 14s.

        Obviously not ideal running over such a distance before the Irish National which is 3 weeks later. She could even win the NHC and maybe not even go up much. Last few years winners were 153,150 and 154. Trainer didn't seem certain which way they would go after the race and said they will see what the handicapper does.

        The prize money should sway them and if she was mine id be trying to get a few pounds off and go back for the big one. Anybody have any strong opinions as to where she will end up?
        The market today is suggesting she will be aimed at the NH Chase.
        Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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        • Originally posted by Spectre View Post

          The market today is suggesting she will be aimed at the NH Chase.
          I wouldn't necessarily take a bit of blue as this is where she is definitely going,If she does rock up you would expect this race thou if coming over. I've seen 3 tipsters put her up this week notably Robbie Wilder was quite sweet in the Weekender writing a near identical argument as the above. I can see the angle with OR and the allowance is a fair one and was impressive on that ground at the weekend, not many seemed to cotton on early to her but she certainly doesn't lack for stamina.

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          • I suspect given the yard, that connections won't be shy having a bet either. The source of sufficient money to move her price may well be closer to home that the tipsters.
            Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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            • Court Maid is the proper second favourite in race that up until now didn't really have a second favourite. As I said elsewhere she can only have one crack at the National Hunt Chase. It would be a strange owner who doesn't want a Cheltenham Festival winner. She was 20/1 the other day, now she is clearly second favourite it might put a different complexion on the target, if indeed they did actually favour going elsewhere.

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              • Originally posted by Spectre View Post
                I suspect given the yard, that connections won't be shy having a bet either. The source of sufficient money to move her price may well be closer to home that the tipsters.
                I'm not saying it's all from the tipster end so to speak but we all know most things with any media presence whether that be digital/social or paper have a knock on effect generally. On races to date you could easily argue the 14-16s is/was a very fair price vs others around that pricing.

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                • Hoping The Big Getaway shows plenty of class and scope on his debut tomorrow

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                  • Originally posted by darlojim View Post
                    Hoping The Big Getaway shows plenty of class and scope on his debut tomorrow
                    Me and you both.

                    I didn't see TBB earlier and am only hearing result now. Can someone summarise the race?

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                    • Originally posted by charlie View Post

                      Me and you both.

                      I didn't see TBB earlier and am only hearing result now. Can someone summarise the race?
                      Not much to summarise. The Big Breakaway having looked awkward throughout eventually masters 100/1 shot but despite not jumping that fluently himself, Bold Plan sits in behind, is pulled out to challenge at the last and easily masters the favourite. The favourite looks a total mess and the suspicion would be that the winner didn't have to do an awful lot to beat him.

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                      • Originally posted by kinloch brae View Post

                        Not much to summarise. The Big Breakaway having looked awkward throughout eventually masters 100/1 shot but despite not jumping that fluently himself, Bold Plan sits in behind, is pulled out to challenge at the last and easily masters the favourite. The favourite looks a total mess and the suspicion would be that the winner didn't have to do an awful lot to beat him.
                        Thanks KB - well that sucks! I'll watch it when I get back and try and seek comfort in the trip being too short and Tizzard not being able to buy a winner atm, but based on what you and other people have told me perhaps its bubble burst.

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                        • Originally posted by charlie View Post

                          Thanks KB - well that sucks! I'll watch it when I get back and try and seek comfort in the trip being too short and Tizzard not being able to buy a winner atm, but based on what you and other people have told me perhaps its bubble burst.
                          Never looked comfortable at the trip, IMO. I know others will say different. It was a very odd bit of placement so quickly after his previous outing.

                          Interested to see where and how he goes next time out, and I'm not chucking the tickets away until then.

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                          • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                            Never looked comfortable at the trip, IMO. I know others will say different. It was a very odd bit of placement so quickly after his previous outing.

                            Interested to see where and how he goes next time out, and I'm not chucking the tickets away until then.
                            Thanks COD. I'll cling on (as if I have a choice without cashout ffs)

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                            • Originally posted by charlie View Post

                              Thanks KB - well that sucks! I'll watch it when I get back and try and seek comfort in the trip being too short and Tizzard not being able to buy a winner atm, but based on what you and other people have told me perhaps its bubble burst.
                              There's no doubt it was disappointing but my first thought was to check the RSA market in the hope that he'd hit 33/1. He didn't, unfortunately.

                              He didn't jump well but he's never a two and a half miler. If I had backed him, I wouldn't be giving up hope.

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                              • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

                                There's no doubt it was disappointing but my first thought was to check the RSA market in the hope that he'd hit 33/1. He didn't, unfortunately.

                                He didn't jump well but he's never a two and a half miler. If I had backed him, I wouldn't be giving up hope.
                                Thanks F_M.

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