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Arkle/Marsh/RSA/NH Chase - Novice Chasers 2021 (new)

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  • Originally posted by Quevega

    If he misses the drinmore.
    It'll be leopardstown over 2m 1f at Christmas that Notebook won.
    Or if he's intent on a trip, the Faugheen Novice at Limerick over xmas over 2m 3f.
    Personally hope he turns up at leopardstown as I think he has the speed and stamina for 2 miles.
    Yeah, get that. 2 miles over fences on a stiff track like Cheltenham could be right up his street.

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    • Must admit Im starting to think Arkle would suit him better than the RSA if they want to avoid EA... Happy to just keep chipping away any race for now. 16/1 more than fair.

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      • Originally posted by Can't Catch Me
        Must admit Im starting to think Arkle would suit him better than the RSA if they want to avoid EA... Happy to just keep chipping away any race for now. 16/1 more than fair.
        Agree. Helps avoid the headaches !

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        • Watch the run in the Ballymore. Then watch him today over 2m. I’d be hugely surprised if they go to 3m with him, looks to have a real mix of speed and stamina.
          He’s slammed Unexcepted in his novice hurdle year and got the closest to Envoi.

          I’d keep him to 2m till he loses. The jumping test and tough finish to the Arkle looks perfect to my eyes. And if he’s beaten in the meantime then go up in trip? What else at the highest level do they have at 2m, perhaps Felix?

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          • Originally posted by Quevega

            If he misses the drinmore.
            It'll be leopardstown over 2m 1f at Christmas that Notebook won.
            Or if he's intent on a trip, the Faugheen Novice at Limerick over xmas over 2m 3f.
            Personally hope he turns up at leopardstown as I think he has the speed and stamina for 2 miles.
            I think he could win either, but I’m expecting a step up next time out.

            The same stable/owner took Delta Work through the Drinmore 2M4F in 3 weeks, and then the Neville Hotels Grade 1 over 3M at Christmas, before a break (too long?) before a close third in the RSA.

            Its easier with the Novice route, to run in a ‘winners of one’ if they want to miss Envoi Allen, then onto the 3-Miler at Christmas.
            "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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            • Originally posted by Lobos

              Pretty certain Gordon won't want to run 3 in the Marsh.
              No, my point was assuming Andy Dufresne will be of the quality to run the Marsh is premature at this stage IMO

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              • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior

                I think he could win either, but I’m expecting a step up next time out.

                The same stable/owner took Delta Work through the Drinmore 2M4F in 3 weeks, and then the Neville Hotels Grade 1 over 3M at Christmas, before a break (too long?) before a close third in the RSA.

                Its easier with the Novice route, to run in a ‘winners of one’ if they want to miss Envoi Allen, then onto the 3-Miler at Christmas.
                Seems Gordon has got his mind set on him being more of a stayer, and he seemed to settle and not be as keen today, but I was watching on a small screen and had no idea of the pace they went.

                I'd say those that fancy him for the longer races are more likely to get a run for your money.
                But I personally wouldn't fancy him as much in the RSA, at this stage anyway.
                But he is a horse I like for anything he runs in.

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                • Originally posted by OscarWhisky
                  Watch the run in the Ballymore. Then watch him today over 2m. I’d be hugely surprised if they go to 3m with him, looks to have a real mix of speed and stamina.
                  He’s slammed Unexcepted in his novice hurdle year and got the closest to Envoi.

                  I’d keep him to 2m till he loses. The jumping test and tough finish to the Arkle looks perfect to my eyes. And if he’s beaten in the meantime then go up in trip? What else at the highest level do they have at 2m, perhaps Felix?
                  See where you're coming from but he looked to have a bit left today for me for a first run, step up is worth a go. Even though it works out best for the tickets i'm holding if he goes for the RSA, i'm starting to think it's the least likely option, markets seem to think the same too, still easy to get 25's after todays run. Marsh would be an easy choice were it not for Envoi, wonder if there's a temptation just to go for it anyway?! Makes by far the most sense for the horse himself.

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                  • Originally posted by Jorvik

                    See where you're coming from but he looked to have a bit left today for me for a first run, step up is worth a go. Even though it works out best for the tickets i'm holding if he goes for the RSA, i'm starting to think it's the least likely option, markets seem to think the same too, still easy to get 25's after todays run. Marsh would be an easy choice were it not for Envoi, wonder if there's a temptation just to go for it anyway?! Makes by far the most sense for the horse himself.
                    If Shishkin and Envoi Allen turn into the monsters that their trainers reckon they will be over fences, then Easywork is best placed at 3M.

                    He has only ran above the short trip twice, and beat Unexcepted by 22 lengths over the mid-trip, then led Envoi Allen over the last in the Ballymore before stating on strongly enough, to pull away from The Big Getaway, which was unbelievable given how much he pulled for a lot of the race.
                    Those two runs are 7lb to 10lb better than any of his three runs over 2M according to Racing Post Ratings.

                    Pleased to see he relaxed more today, the slower rhythm that 50% more obstacles gives to chasing didn’t trouble him, and add the 7lb to 10lb on for stepping back out in trip again, then we hopefully have a 3M beast, to complete the set (with Shishkin and EA). - and still at a massive price
                    "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                    • I’ve thought since the Ballymore that Easy Work would be aimed at the Marsh (JLT....I respect the sponsor way after their deal ends ) . I can’t think of any other Giggsintown horses that are better than him at this distance from hurdle form and so far what we’ve seen this season. Gordon will know how competitive he can be with Envoi but he gave him a solid race in Ballymore and the Marsh looks ideal. I’ve mainly backed him for the AB but I look to get some money on him for the Marsh now.

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                      • Mullins stable tour - Aione not out until second half of seasOn and will stay hurdling

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                        • Klassical D



                          I suppose you could say he's something of a forgotten horse. He disappointed me last season, but he goes chasing now and I see him as an Arkle contender. If he doesn't prove himself to be that, we can go up in trip with him.

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                          • Unexcepted

                            Unexcepted is a horse who excites everybody, including myself. He could be our Arkle horse.

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                            • Originally posted by Vautour
                              Mullins stable tour - Aione not out until second half of seasOn and will stay hurdling
                              Cashed out, cheers

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                              • Originally posted by Vautour
                                Mullins stable tour - Aione not out until second half of seasOn and will stay hurdling
                                Cashed out as well for full stake thanks a lot

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