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Arkle/Marsh/RSA/NH Chase - Novice Chasers 2021 (new)

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  • With regards asterion forlonge, can anyone remember an example of a time when a horse who jumped as badly to the right as him was trained to jump straight? I still think that run at leopardstown was very good and he's going to go to the top when stepped up in trip, but I dont know if his jumping can be fixed to allow him to go for the marsh/rsa, maybe the different course might help him if he goes marsh? My worry with regards to backing him is that he goes unbeaten and is very impressive in the lead up to the festival without showing any signs of diving to the right, so they take a chance and bring him over only for the problem to emerge again

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    • Originally posted by JackieMoon33
      Pencilfulloflead franks the Uhtred form again.
      A bit of a leap using a chase winner in collateral with bumper form to boost a novice hurdler.

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      • Originally posted by riccirich
        With regards asterion forlonge, can anyone remember an example of a time when a horse who jumped as badly to the right as him was trained to jump straight? I still think that run at leopardstown was very good and he's going to go to the top when stepped up in trip, but I dont know if his jumping can be fixed to allow him to go for the marsh/rsa, maybe the different course might help him if he goes marsh? My worry with regards to backing him is that he goes unbeaten and is very impressive in the lead up to the festival without showing any signs of diving to the right, so they take a chance and bring him over only for the problem to emerge again
        It appeared to get really wild when the heat was on . And possibly more pronounced due to the hurdle positioning. Prior to that it was just a small habit, which a lot do.
        The concern is that whilst he may jump straighter when we see him the next couple of times. When the heat is really on he may revert to it again.
        The yard though appear to have not ruled out going left handed, which I think is both a surprise and the right thing to do for now.
        I think he may end up in the stayers though. And I'd back him for that for sure. As the hurdles are much better positioned for him to fuck about if he wants.
        Nicholls Canyon did something similar more than once (at Leopardstown though) - and look where he ended up.

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        • Re Diol Kerr....never going to do one of those doubles again. Don't think I've ever had the first leg in. Clearly I'm a Jinx.

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          • Originally posted by Lobos
            Re Diol Kerr....never going to do one of those doubles again. Don't think I've ever had the first leg in. Clearly I'm a Jinx.
            I think I am as well Lobos, only one I have live Is the Zoe one but that is looking doubtful as well

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            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
              Re Diol Kerr....never going to do one of those doubles again. Don't think I've ever had the first leg in. Clearly I'm a Jinx.
              ...thought you got on the 150-1 Unexcepted offer a few days ago. 22-1 Galvin was decent too.

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              • Latest Exhibition, Longhouse Poet & Run Wild Fred all entered in a 2m 6 1/2f Beginners Chase this Wednesday at Punchestown.

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                • Originally posted by Eggs
                  ...thought you got on the 150-1 Unexcepted offer a few days ago. 22-1 Galvin was decent too.
                  No. Didn't do either which is why they weren't jinxed !

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                  • Envoi Allen & Easywork both entered at Down Royal on Friday...

                    (Just realised this has been posted in another thread, haha)

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                    • Originally posted by isitmarchyet
                      Envoi Allen & Easywork both entered at Down Royal on Friday...

                      (Just realised this has been posted in another thread, haha)
                      ........Gulp !

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                      • Originally posted by archie
                        A bit of a leap using a chase winner in collateral with bumper form to boost a novice hurdler.
                        Well they always thought Pencilfulloflead was a good horse and if he'd done nothing since, I'd be a little concerned over the form. But as he's come out and won, albeit in a different discipline, it still shows he has some ability. It's still fairly current form so I think it's worth keeping track of; It's not like I've taken form from two seasons ago and claimed it now.

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                        • Lovely intro for Andy D

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                          • Nice enough start for Andy Dufresne there

                            Can't decide where he fits in myself. Possibly Arkle (obvious suggestion given he's just won over 2m), or failing that, a handicap if not good enough. He wasn't stopping but I'd be surprised if he went out in trip.

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                            • Originally posted by Hurricane fly
                              Lovely intro for Andy D
                              I didn't like that at all. He clearly has an engine but he looked far from natural at his fences. One to avoid for me.

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                              • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie
                                Nice enough start for Andy Dufresne there

                                Can't decide where he fits in myself. Possibly Arkle (obvious suggestion given he's just won over 2m), or failing that, a handicap if not good enough. He wasn't stopping but I'd be surprised if he went out in trip.
                                Grand Annual

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