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Arkle/Marsh/RSA/NH Chase - Novice Chasers 2021 (new)

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  • Originally posted by FaugheenTheMachine
    Warren Greatrex just tweeted a clip of Emitom schooling over fences, starting him off at Uttoxeter in October. Personally think he’s just below top class for something like the RSA but I know he has his fans on here
    I think he’ll end up in the Plate personally. I agree he’s just below top class but more than capable of winning one of handicaps if his jumping is as good as you hope it is

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    • I think the biggest problem with any horse trained by Warren Greatrex is probably Warren Greatrex...

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      • Originally posted by Istabraq
        I think the biggest problem with any horse trained by Warren Greatrex is probably Warren Greatrex...
        Ouch ista

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        • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
          I think the biggest problem with any horse trained by Warren Greatrex is probably Warren Greatrex...
          harsh but fair

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          • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
            I think the biggest problem with any horse trained by Warren Greatrex is probably Warren Greatrex...
            He’s still had more festival success than many trainers in his league, 2 festival winners and a few placed horses is not a bad record for a stable his size. It’s probably not a popular opinion but I think Greatrex is a decent trainer

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            • Few decent entries in the beginner's chase on Monday at Listowel. Unexcepted, Mt Leinster, Beacon Edge and Exit poll. I would be happy to back Unexcepted and Mt Leinster at big prices for the Arkle if someone could get them priced up with Bet365. Hopefully get bigger than 33s

              Unexcepted was very impressive the first day for mullins and is rated 137 over hurdles so could easily exploit that at some stage.

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              • I was balls deep in Unexcepted after his Gowran Park run. Still think there’s a graded horse in there.

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                • Originally posted by OverTheLast
                  I was balls deep in Unexcepted after his Gowran Park run. Still think there’s a graded horse in there.
                  Yeah, one I was massively keen on also.

                  Will wait on news of his well being as he stopped real quick at Leopardstown.

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                  • Originally posted by Hurdles or chasing
                    Few decent entries in the beginner's chase on Monday at Listowel. Unexcepted, Mt Leinster, Beacon Edge and Exit poll. I would be happy to back Unexcepted and Mt Leinster at big prices for the Arkle if someone could get them priced up with Bet365. Hopefully get bigger than 33s

                    Unexcepted was very impressive the first day for mullins and is rated 137 over hurdles so could easily exploit that at some stage.
                    Added this morning with bet 365, 33s for Unexcepted, 40s for Mt Leinster.

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                    • Mt Leinster is a horrible horse though isn't he.

                      He'd need an absolutely massive jump on his form to be winning Grade 1 Chases. Rated 142 over hurdles?



                      I know Willie Mullins is a great trainer, but it doesn't mean every one of his horses is going to be an Arkle horse.



                      Unexcepted is currently rated worse than that, although I'd anticipate him ending up with a higher chase rating of the two.




                      As a strategy though, no real reason not to back them all with 365 for now! Such little risk, although I could leave Mt Leinster completely.

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                      • Fusil Raffles going chasing this coming season and entered in novice chase at Uttoxeter next Friday

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                        • Arkle seems to evolve around my old mate Shishkin , if you believe the betting he only has to turn up to collect. Dont get me wrong he the right fav at this stage and I have him in a few bets. One horse at bigger odds that interests me and that Paul Nicholls youngster Pic D Ory , looked after by nicholls last season with view to going chasing ,he bolted up in one of the biggest handicaps of the season at Newbury yet Nicholls resisted sending him to festival. That patience will be rewarded I believe , I can see him improving again for summer on his back .

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                          • Originally posted by The Beast
                            Arkle seems to evolve around my old mate Shishkin , if you believe the betting he only has to turn up to collect. Dont get me wrong he the right fav at this stage and I have him in a few bets. One horse at bigger odds that interests me and that Paul Nicholls youngster Pic D Ory , looked after by nicholls last season with view to going chasing ,he bolted up in one of the biggest handicaps of the season at Newbury yet Nicholls resisted sending him to festival. That patience will be rewarded I believe , I can see him improving again for summer on his back .
                            Not sure we can say Shiskin is the 'right' Arkle fav at this stage ?? Just all us sheep getting excited and following each other isn't it ?

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                            • Originally posted by Lobos
                              Not sure we can say Shiskin is the 'right' Arkle fav at this stage ?? Just all us sheep getting excited and following each other isn't it ?
                              No, he won the Supreme.

                              Who should be the Arkle fav?

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                              • Originally posted by Kevloaf
                                No, he won the Supreme.

                                Who should be the Arkle fav?
                                As stupid as it seems.......no one at this stage ! There is no rightful fav before the season has started and anyone has jumped a fence. I don't need to tell you lot that. Shiskin is fav on the back of him winning the Supreme and the noises coming from Henderson. That does NOT make him the rightful fav. Yes, he could step forward and take that mantle but any number of horses could do the same. He's only fav on the back of us idiots , and I include myself in that bracket, following the noises and market and him being the Supreme winner.

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