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Arkle/Marsh/RSA/NH Chase - Novice Chasers 2021 (new)

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  • Got Energueme any race 27/1 and an Arkle bet at 45/1 but i must admit maybe he will go Marsh. Having said that if Mullins think hes his best i am sure he will take on Shishkin over Envoi.

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    • I don't see the positives for Court Maids run. What am I missing?

      She didn't pick up and would have been beaten 10 lengths had the winner not decided to down tools on the run in.

      A case of trying to find positives that aren't there?

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      • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post
        I don't see the positives for Court Maids run. What am I missing?

        She didn't pick up and would have been beaten 10 lengths had the winner not decided to down tools on the run in.

        A case of trying to find positives that aren't there?
        It was her third run in a short period of time.

        Robbie Power messed about with her going to two out but despite that has, for me, stayed on nicely despite losing ground at two out. She also raced widest of all throughout.

        She will almost certainly be better over 4 furlongs further and now has some respectable course form in the bag.

        I thought it was a good run all things considered, in the context of a NHC.

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        • Did RP mess her about? I'll have to watch it back but looked to me like they quickened away from her.

          She raced wide but by not to an extreme and it wouldn't have cost her the race, imo.

          Yep she'll stay but the winner stopped. Had he ran to the line I'm not sure anyone would be highlighting the positives

          Added to that, she might not even run.

          I didn't watch it live but read the comments on here before watching the race and have to say I'm underwhelmed.

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          • Good to see all is well with TBG (wish he would be more forthcoming with some of his others!!)

            THE BIG GETAWAY seems fine after his run at Navan last weekend when he finished third on his chasing debut.

            He probably just needed it badly. He’s a big unit and with the extended break he had because of the Covid shutdown, he possibly needed it more than most against race-fit rivals on the day. I’d imagine he’ll be back out over Christmas.

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            • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post
              Did RP mess her about? I'll have to watch it back but looked to me like they quickened away from her.

              She raced wide but by not to an extreme and it wouldn't have cost her the race, imo.

              Yep she'll stay but the winner stopped. Had he ran to the line I'm not sure anyone would be highlighting the positives

              Added to that, she might not even run.

              I didn't watch it live but read the comments on here before watching the race and have to say I'm underwhelmed.
              That has to be a worry for her backers but I think the lure of going to the festival for a small stable with a live chance will prove too great to ignore.

              Time will tell.

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              • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post
                Did RP mess her about? I'll have to watch it back but looked to me like they quickened away from her.

                She raced wide but by not to an extreme and it wouldn't have cost her the race, imo.

                Yep she'll stay but the winner stopped. Had he ran to the line I'm not sure anyone would be highlighting the positives

                Added to that, she might not even run.

                I didn't watch it live but read the comments on here before watching the race and have to say I'm underwhelmed.
                I thought the winner was worthy enough.
                But Robbie was painfully slow approaching both the last 2 flights, not sure he was struggling for a stride or what, but he slowed considerably into both.
                He may also have been minding the horse or felt that she was tiring, but that theory doesn't wash as much when you see how much he rode her after the last. Even though he may have felt he had to at that point given the winner was fucking about.

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                • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                  I thought the winner was worthy enough.
                  But Robbie was painfully slow approaching both the last 2 flights, not sure he was struggling for a stride or what, but he slowed considerably into both.
                  He may also have been minding the horse or felt that she was tiring, but that theory doesn't wash as much when you see how much he rode her after the last. Even though he may have felt he had to at that point given the winner was fucking about.
                  When he asked for something coming round the bend there was nothing there to my eyes.

                  I'm going to go back and watch though - only watched it once

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                  • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

                    When he asked for something coming round the bend there was nothing there to my eyes.

                    I'm going to go back and watch though - only watched it once
                    She definitely emptied running to the 2nd last but did stick on ok. A very poor race though and one she should be winning if she had any aspirations of winning at the Fez.

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                    • Apologies forgot his debut was over 2m 4f, Energumene that is.

                      Agree with what’s being said, don’t know how I didn’t notice it before but some price difference and it’s PP shortest, no brainer.

                      If KD is good enough he’s almost certainly Arkle bound imo along with one or 2 of Elixir, Blackbow and Unexcepted. With the other stepping up.

                      Asterion Forlonge possibly Marsh with Energumene and it leaves potential for TBG and monkfish RSA and Five O’Clock NHC.

                      Right Mullins novices sorted if good enough

                      If only!!!!

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                      • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

                        When he asked for something coming round the bend there was nothing there to my eyes.

                        I'm going to go back and watch though - only watched it once
                        He certainly didn't ride her as though it was a Cheltenham festival race at stake. That's for sure.

                        There was not much urging at all, so can only imagine that he didn't feel she had a lot left.
                        But he never really asked her for much till he'd jumped the last.
                        The switch inside, before the second last was an odd decision also. But also could have been due to fatigue.

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                        • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                          I thought the winner was worthy enough.
                          But Robbie was painfully slow approaching both the last 2 flights, not sure he was struggling for a stride or what, but he slowed considerably into both.
                          He may also have been minding the horse or felt that she was tiring, but that theory doesn't wash as much when you see how much he rode her after the last. Even though he may have felt he had to at that point given the winner was fucking about.
                          He said post race interview that she completely emptied on him, which is strange how she rallied after the final flight

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                          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                            She definitely emptied running to the 2nd last but did stick on ok. A very poor race though and one she should be winning if she had any aspirations of winning at the Fez.
                            There's every chance she'd have finished 4th if Commodore hadn't came down too.

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                            • Originally posted by Hardy Eustace View Post
                              Good to see all is well with TBG (wish he would be more forthcoming with some of his others!!)

                              THE BIG GETAWAY seems fine after his run at Navan last weekend when he finished third on his chasing debut.

                              He probably just needed it badly. He’s a big unit and with the extended break he had because of the Covid shutdown, he possibly needed it more than most against race-fit rivals on the day. I’d imagine he’ll be back out over Christmas.

                              https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/...improve/187375
                              Hoping he takes up his entry in the Neville's Hotel over 3 miles on December 29th, finish top 4 and qualify for the 4 miler. I'm more confident now that that'll be his Fez destination.

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                              • Palmers Hill didn't do much to enhance his credentials for the 4 miler - roll on Locks Corner....

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