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Arkle/Marsh/RSA/NH Chase - Novice Chasers 2021 (new)

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  • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
    Not impressed with Andy Dufresne - not on him at all and no interest in adding him.
    Looked to be doing his best work at the end there, reckon a step up in trip may see him in better light. Gordon to have the 1-2 in the Marsh.

    That said, Conflated winning boosted the Asterion Forlonge form.

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    • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

      Looked to be doing his best work at the end there, reckon a step up in trip may see him in better light. Gordon to have the 1-2 in the Marsh.

      That said, Conflated winning boosted the Asterion Forlonge form.
      Then digging a bit deeper makes Envoi look even better with form!

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      • Chantry House is entered and jocked up in the 3mile noivce chase at chetenham on friday.

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        • Originally posted by Might_Bite View Post
          Chantry House is entered and jocked up in the 3mile noivce chase at chetenham on friday.
          Hendo another trainer to avoid Envoi and go RSA instead ?

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          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

            Hendo another trainer to avoid Envoi and go RSA instead ?
            The step up in trip might just be the making of him.

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            • Could be couldn't it. Gordon seems adamant that Andy D wants 2m4f but whether or not he even goes to the cheltenham festival or waits for later remains to be seen. But it could be the case that one takes in the marsh and the other the RSA.

              I seem to remember that Hendo did jock up Fusil Raffles in both the 2m and 2m3f nov chases before the novemebr meet... So perhaps its just how he does things and Chantry could be jocked up for both the 3m and 2m4f races on friday and saturday.

              One to monitor...

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              • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

                The step up in trip might just be the making of him.
                I completely agree

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                • With the heads of the Arkle and Marsh markets being so short and pretty much unbackable (IMO) at such short odds so far out do you think the next step is to look at each way plays in both races?

                  Felix Desjy obviously looks a decent horse and 16/1 seems a decent price for him.

                  Was looking at the Marsh market and it seems to be full of horses who seem unlikely to run, what do you guys think of Easywork at 25/1?

                  Won over 2m1f against the horse that Andy Dufresne beat into 2nd today on his only chase start and holds entries for a 2m3f grade 1 and a 3m grade 1 at the end of December.

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                  • Easywork could be elliots RSA horse

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                    • I like the way you think, FF. I've been chipping away at him TWAR and RSA for a while. Bar, EA, Easywork has the highest OR of all the staying novice hurdlers going chasing this season. I thought his first outing over 2m was perfectly respectable. Most of all, he seemed to settle much better. Looking forward to his next outing. He's entered up in both the 2m3f and 3m graded novice chases over Xmas.

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                      • I've just recalled the Tizzard comment on Eldorado Allen after he won at Cheltenham, when Gumball fell when leading.

                        Eldorado Allen is the best 2M Chaser we have had.



                        "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                        • Any comments from Mullins/Connections after The Big Getaway today? I thought there had to be something amiss with his two false steps early after the first.

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                          • Originally posted by Guinness Village View Post
                            I like the way you think, FF. I've been chipping away at him TWAR and RSA for a while. Bar, EA, Easywork has the highest OR of all the staying novice hurdlers going chasing this season. I thought his first outing over 2m was perfectly respectable. Most of all, he seemed to settle much better. Looking forward to his next outing. He's entered up in both the 2m3f and 3m graded novice chases over Xmas.
                            I thought at the time that the Ballymore was the weakest of the three novice races. Easywork has got his rating through Envoi Allen who wasn't given the best of rides on the day. Only Shan Blue has done much to uphold the form. Easywork was no better than a Grade 2 hurdler so I would have big doubts about that rating. I would have had Monkfish at least 7lbs pounds ahead of him. Thyme Hill is now 160 so I don't think it is stretching the imagination that Monkfish should have been in the mid 150's with Easywork somewhere in the 140's.

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                            • Interesting that Chantry House is entered over 3m1f at Cheltenham on Friday and is a sea of blue for the RSA on oddschecker. Available at 20's and as short at 12's.

                              Has something been said that I've missed to cause this? Delighted to have nabbed 40's pre debut as entries and market indications would suggest RSA is on the cards + we've discussed on here horses avoiding EA, and he could be one of them.

                              I thought he was fine on his debut. As I said on the supreme thread, I think we've generally (myself included) slipped into expecting too much from horses on debut.

                              I'd love to see him stay the 3m and win well at Cheltenham on Friday.

                              Someone on twitter mentioned that CH was in the process of giving Monkfish a beating when unseating 3 out in his P2P. I haven't seen the race so cannot verify, but interesting nonetheless

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                              • Originally posted by charlie View Post
                                Interesting that Chantry House is entered over 3m1f at Cheltenham on Friday and is a sea of blue for the RSA on oddschecker. Available at 20's and as short at 12's.

                                Has something been said that I've missed to cause this? Delighted to have nabbed 40's pre debut as entries and market indications would suggest RSA is on the cards + we've discussed on here horses avoiding EA, and he could be one of them.

                                I thought he was fine on his debut. As I said on the supreme thread, I think we've generally (myself included) slipped into expecting too much from horses on debut.

                                I'd love to see him stay the 3m and win well at Cheltenham on Friday.

                                Someone on twitter mentioned that CH was in the process of giving Monkfish a beating when unseating 3 out in his P2P. I haven't seen the race so cannot verify, but interesting nonetheless
                                I've noted this on here more than a couple of times. I wouldn't have said he was about to hand Monkfish a beating but he was ahead at the time of unseating, though Monkfish looked to finish the race well.

                                It was something I picked up on early so managed to get some 65's and 60's on the exchanges for Chantry House in the RSA. Tried getting bigger but couldn't get matched.

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