Arkle/Marsh/RSA/NH Chase - Novice Chasers 2021 (new)

[Viking Flagship]

Nice start from Chantry, nothing more nothing less. 2 best jumps were the last 2 which is a good sign. Can’t work out whether he was lazy or already wants 3 miles!

[charlie]

Nice start from Chantry, nothing more nothing less. 2 best jumps were the last 2 which is a good sign. Can't work out whether he was lazy or already wants 3 miles!

I was coming on here to say pretty much exactly this, word for word. Only shortened slightly but glad I look 40's about the RSA.

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a fraction disappointed, but it was a good start and I can't wait to see what's next.

[Can't Catch Me]

I was going to say the same too! Just added him at 33/1 for the RSA and really surprised that's still available. In fact Im going to make it 2pts EW instead of 1. He was a bit lazy but looks a really staying chaser. JP only really has Dickie Diver for the RSA who is odds against to even make the Festival... so with the EA factor, I think it looks a very big price. Plenty of stamina in his breeding.

[ComplyOrDie]

I was coming on here to say pretty much exactly this, word for word. Only shortened slightly but glad I look 40's about the RSA.

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a fraction disappointed, but it was a good start and I can't wait to see what's next.

Brought up Chantry House quite a while ago for the RSA, the PTP he unseated his rider 3 out in, he was ahead of Monkfish at the time (who eventually won the race). It was a significant enough point for me to get decent exchange prices, as that bit of form would show up to be plenty good enough with what Monkfish has done since then.

Obviously we can't take the form too literally and who knows whether Chantry House would have still been ahead at the line, but it intrigued me all the same, and is probably not something many would have known or looked into.

[charlie]

Brought up Chantry House quite a while ago for the RSA, the PTP he unseated his rider 3 out in, he was ahead of Monkfish at the time (who eventually won the race). It was a significant enough point for me to get decent exchange prices, as that bit of form would show up to be plenty good enough with what Monkfish has done since then.

Obviously we can't take the form too literally and who knows whether Chantry House would have still been ahead at the line, but it intrigued me all the same, and is probably not something many would have known or looked into.

I didn't know that COD, excellent info that would reassure those on for the RSA. Hendo was clear afterwards he'd only ever be going up in trip so who know's.

Re Marsh, I would have liked to see him quicker/slicker over his obstacles if I am being 100% honest, but then it was a chase debut on soft ground at somewhere that's not easy, so perhaps I am being harsh.

[Viking Flagship]

I was coming on here to say pretty much exactly this, word for word. Only shortened slightly but glad I look 40's about the RSA.

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a fraction disappointed, but it was a good start and I can't wait to see what's next.

I did the same just before the off Charlie as I really like the horse, am quite heavily involved in him for the Marsh, and couldn’t face it if he went up to 3m without me! I think that performance makes it ever so slightly more likely that they might do it.

[ComplyOrDie]

I didn't know that COD, excellent info that would reassure those on for the RSA. Hendo was clear afterwards he'd only ever be going up in trip so who know's.

Re Marsh, I would have liked to see him quicker/slicker over his obstacles if I am being 100% honest, but then it was a chase debut on soft ground at somewhere that's not easy, so perhaps I am being harsh.

I did also do some brief work looking at Supreme to RSA horses, and I could only find one (although I didn't do an awful lot of research), and that was Shaneshill for WPM, who finished 2nd in both the Supreme and RSA.

[Muswell]

War of Attrition, Best Mate and Kicking King all finished second in the supreme though and won gold cups albeit WoA and KK went via the Arkle so it’s not unheard of to step up

[ComplyOrDie]

War of Attrition, Best Mate and Kicking King all finished second in the supreme though and won gold cups albeit WoA and KK went via the Arkle so it’s not unheard of to step up

No of course not, but the step up to 3m chases straight after a 2m novice hurdle campaign is not as common I don't think.

[Craigy14]

I didn't know that COD, excellent info that would reassure those on for the RSA. Hendo was clear afterwards he'd only ever be going up in trip so who know's.

Re Marsh, I would have liked to see him quicker/slicker over his obstacles if I am being 100% honest, but then it was a chase debut on soft ground at somewhere that's not easy, so perhaps I am being harsh.

Aye Ascot is a tough introduction for a chase debut. I just put a point any race prior to his run reason being his Marsh price dropped 4/5 points before the race. Covers the RSA just in case but surely a decent bet to drop a horse that much before he has even run?

Not that it means a lot but Mick F surprisingly was waxing lyrical about Chantry House and Shishkins schooling on ATR.

[charlie]

Aye Ascot is a tough introduction for a chase debut. I just put a point any race prior to his run reason being his Marsh price dropped 4/5 points before the race. Covers the RSA just in case but surely a decent bet to drop a horse that much before he has even run?

Not that it means a lot but Mick F surprisingly was waxing lyrical about Chantry House and Shishkins schooling on ATR.

Tbf Mick Fitz may as well be wearing a cheerleaders outfit with pom pom's when talking about any of Hendo's horses

[JackieMoon33]

Not really sure what to make of that. No pace and a few scrappy/slow jumps early from Chantry - I think he would have had the measure of Pic D'ohry but couldn't be 100%. It is a shame as it would have given the form some substance. He jumped the last two like Sprinter Sacre so it wasnt all bad. I am sure Chantry's next run will tell us plenty more.

Positive jumping performance from Chantry House and he came home strongly but I was not confident he was going to reel in Pic D'Orhy before he fell. I'm not sure if this ties in with Henderson's hurdlers than ran below par so maybe Chantry will come on a fair bit for the run.

[JackieMoon33]

Brought up Chantry House quite a while ago for the RSA, the PTP he unseated his rider 3 out in, he was ahead of Monkfish at the time (who eventually won the race). It was a significant enough point for me to get decent exchange prices, as that bit of form would show up to be plenty good enough with what Monkfish has done since then.

Obviously we can't take the form too literally and who knows whether Chantry House would have still been ahead at the line, but it intrigued me all the same, and is probably not something many would have known or looked into.

Beware of that PtP race though as I've seen a comment somewhere that although Chantry was in the lead at the time he fell, his tank may have been beginning to empty.

[JackieMoon33]

No of course not, but the step up to 3m chases straight after a 2m novice hurdle campaign is not as common I don't think.

I'd say it is pretty rare as well

[JackieMoon33]

Tbf Mick Fitz may as well be wearing a cheerleaders outfit with pom pom's when talking about any of Hendo's horses

haha - he is the biggest fan boi out there